Breaking Up is Hard to Do…Especially When You Own a Home Together

I’ve written articles before about issues to consider if you’re going through a divorce and have a mortgage…what if you were never married?  Couples (or single people) often buy homes together…what if worse case scenario, it doesn’t work out and one party wants to keep the home?

A divorce decree allows you to refinance to cash out the other spouse and still have the mortgage treated as a “rate term” refinance.  There are significant differences between a cash-out and rate-term refinance.  A cash out refinance is limited to an 85% loan-to-value and the rate is higher (approx. 0.5% in fee at an 80% loan to value with credit scores of 740 and higher).  If there is a court order, it’s possible that FHA might allow a cash-out refi with a non-married co-owner.

There’s also the issue of excise tax.  An excise tax affidavit is filed whenever a deed is recorded (in the State of Washington).  Excise tax may not be due when the person being removed from vesting is pursuant to a divorce decree.  However, when there is no decree or court order involved and the person is being removed, excise tax may be due as they consider the transfer of that person’s interest to the other person “a sale“.  I’m told the county may charge excise tax on half of the underlying mortgage.  As of the date this post was published, King County charges 1.78% for excise tax.   Possible exceptions to this would be if the co-owners were registered as domestic partners, or the transfer of the property to one co-owner is by court order. 

Just like a divorce, simply deeding the property over to the party who’s remaining in the home does not remove the other person from responsibility or liability of the mortgage.  And it probably makes good sense to contact an attorney who specializes in divorce to assist with the separation of the real estate property.

EDITORS NOTE: This post was written in 2009 and may not be as accurate with regards to excise tax with laws regarding recognizing partners since the writing of this post.

Upside down in your home with good credit? March 4, 2009 may be an important date for you.

Just received this email, which I'm sure echos the thoughts of many home owners:

"Been meaning to contact you to get your take on the recent wholesale changes that are coming hard and fast at the mortgage bankers out there and, of course, see if there can be any benefit to a re-fi given the new lending "rules" (for lack of a better term). We're horribly upside-down on our current loan balance vs. current home value, so we don't know what can happen for us, if anything. But if there's a way to get that rate down and send out less each month. we're listening! What do you think about all this?"

Last week, President Obama announced his plans to help stimulate the economy and help provide stability with America's housing.  With the Homeowner Affordibility and Stability Plan, home owners who are "credit worthy" may be able to refinance their home up to 105% loan to value

On March 4, 2009, more details are suppose to be announced.  Here's what we understand so far:

  • The program is limited to loans held or securitized by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac.
  • First mortgage may not be more than 105% of the value of the property. 

  • Borrowers with a second mortgage may still be able to refinance if the second mortgage lien holder is willing to remain in second lien position and if the borrower still qualifies.

  • The program will offer 30 year or 15 year fixed interest rates based on market rates.

  • The program only applies to the home you live in.  It does not apply towards vacation or second homes or investment properties.

According the the Treasury, this program will not be available until March 4, 2009.  Lenders will become even more buried with refinance business once this happens.  It is to your advantage to be prepared.  By gathering the following information:

  • 2008 W2s (if self employed or paid commission, 2 years of complete tax returns)
  • Most recent paystubs covering 30 days of income.
  • Most recent mortgage statements.

  • Information on current monthly debts including amount paid monthly and amount owed.

  • Most recent bank statements/asset accounts (all pages).

If your home is located in Washington State, you can apply on line now by clicking the link under my photo.  However, I don't anticipate having more details until March 4, 2009.

More to follow.

Should You Refi?

EDITORS NOTE: This post was written back in 2008 and mortgage rates have obviously changed 🙂  If you would like a mortgage rate quote based on current rates for your home located in Washington state, click here.

Last week I did a quick alert on the 30 year fixed hitting high 4’s-low 5s and I received an excellent comment from Sandy:

“…With all the costs and everything of refinancing, how much lower do rates need to be than what you currently have, before it makes sense to think about refinancing? I am just curious, as we have a 30yr fixed loan that is in the low 5s.”

You would think this is a simple question with a simple answer.  There’s much more to it.  Here are some things to consider if you considering refinancing your mortgage:

How long do you plan on staying in your home?   There are cost to the mortgage even if you’re getting a “no cost mortgage” where the hard costs are actually financed into the interest rate.   If you cannot break even on the cost before you plan on selling or refinancing again (low 4’s to high 5’s would be unlikely), then refinancing for the purpose of reducing your rate may not make sense.

Do you have an Adjustable Rate Mortgage?  If you’re going to retain your property longer than the remaining fixed term on the ARM (adjustable rate mortgage), you may want to consider refinancing into a fixed mortgage.

Do you have private mortgage insurance or a second mortgage?   Sometimes if someone has pmi or a piggy back second mortgage, refinancing may make sense if the can restructure the existing mortgages into one and if the blended rate of their existing mortgages are higher than what the new mortgage would provide.

Do you have a Jumbo mortgage?  Depending on what your mortgage balance is and your current rate, it may make sense to restructure your mortgage into a conforming mortgage.  This can be done by paying down the mortgage at closing or using a second mortgage, such as a HELOC or fixed second.

Would you like access to your home equity?   Refinancing can provide cash for home improvements, college tuition, debt consolidation, or what ever else you wish to do with your equity.   Most cash out refinances are priced higher than a rate term refinance.

Are you getting a divorce or separation?  If you have a mortgage with another person and the relationship is dissolving; you will need to refinance in order to remove the one who’s not staying in the home from the mortgage.   Divorce decrees and Quit Claim Deeds do not remove someone’s liability from the mortgage.  Plus, it’s a huge risk for the person who is no longer staying in the home.   Refinancing to remove an ex-spouse from the mortgage and to cash out their equity is not priced as a “cash out” refinance–it’s treated as a rate term refi.

Are you concerned about your home value declining?  Refinances are priced based on loan to value and there are underwriting guidelines that limit how high a loan to value may be.  In “declining markets” lenders have additional restrictions on loan to value lending limits.

Here are some quick “Do’s and Don’ts” for your refinance:

  • Do get a good faith estimate from your Mortgage Professional.  If you have not heard from your Mortgage Professional since you closed your loan or over the past few months, you might need a new one (they could be out of the business).
  • Do not rely on a simple “rate quote” without knowing the costs involved.
  • Do complete a loan application and provide the information your Mortgage Professional needs to lock in your interest rate.
  • Do not try to “play the market” and get the lowest rate…it’s far too volatile in this climate.   If the rate makes sense, lock it!

Must reads:

Picking your next mortgage by rate shopping?   You might as well be playing liars poker.

I’m happy to adopt your ARM.  No refi required.

 

Buying a house when you have a lot of debt

A reader who recently moved to Seattle contacted with a question that I think many will relate to.   He contacted me offering his story:

"One idea you may be interested in writing about are house buying options when you have good credit and income – but a lot of credit card debt. We’re paying off the credit card debt slowly — very slowly, and seeing housing prices rise 15% or more annually. It’s frustrating because as time goes by — the dream house only gets further out of reach. We will be able to buy a nice house — but not the dream house we could if not saddled with the credit card debt. The credit card debt also isn’t tax deductible!"

I work with many families who have visions of their "dream home" while they’re trying to manage monthly debts.   And as if buying a home wasn’t stressful enough on it’s own, many home buyers seem to feel panicked over our local appreciation with home prices.   It’s a definite balancing act of buying as much home you can afford without "betting the ranch".   If you’re over burdened with credit cards AND you take on a hefty new mortgage payment, you could be setting yourself up for financial (and emotional) disaster.   

I do not encourage using a mortgage such as an Option ARM for sole purposes of stretching into your dream home.   If you make the minimum payments (which most will opt for) the deferred interest will reach it’s cap and you will be faced with a much higher mortgage payment.  If you cannot afford the mortgage payment using a fixed period ARM or fixed rate product, you probably cannot afford the home.   

It’s very possible that home buyers may need to redefine what their dream home is.  Buying a home that needs a little TLC or is a little further out from the city may afford you more comfort when it comes to your monthly cash flow.   Plus, you may receive a better return on this type of property should you decide to sell it in 5 or so years, using the net proceeds (profit) to purchase your "dream home". 

Modo3530For example, this 1800 sq. ft. completely remodeled rambler (now subject to inspection) was recently listed in Kent for $349,950.   It’s on a corner lot, in a popular neighborhood with four bedrooms and 1.75 bathrooms.   I’m not a Real Estate Agent, but I would bet that similar homes in Seattle would sell for closer to $500,000.   Having the lower payment and more funds in the bank from a reduced down payment can translate into a higher quality of life.   I know…I know…you do have to factor in commute times with our traffic.   But once you’re home, you are HOME.

I will go into more details about this families information in future posts.   They were gracious to share their information with me and their story is certainly not unique.

Divorce, your mortgage and your credit

Whether you’re married or are a couple who own a home together and are now facing a separation, dissolving a partnership is never easy.   Even if both parties are amicable and agree to the break up, it is a very emotional time.  You may just be thinking about who gets to keep the house…or you just may want out and not even care about the property.   Your mortgage and credit history is probably the last thing on your mind…however, you may want to consider protecting the credit that you’ve worked hard for.   

Do contact an attorney who specializes in divorce.   Even if you just contemplating a divorce and you’re not certain you will file.  It’s important to find out the facts and get legal advice from a professional. 

Obtain your current credit report.   You can get a free copy from www.annualcreditreport.com.    Review it to make sure that your debts are in order and that the other party is not using your credit for “retail therapy”.    Identify which accounts you may want to close if they have your name on them.   The credit company may be all too happy to issue your own card in your own name.    Having an ex-partner with your credit, even if you’re getting along now, can wreck havoc on your scores.   If your name remains on an account they have, even if they pay the debts on time, if the balances exceed 30% of the limit on a credit card, your credit score will suffer too.   

Consider closing any joint accounts immediately that are not in use and removing your name from any accounts that you are a signer on.

Secured accounts, such as loans attached to vehicles and mortgages must be dealt with too.   You might consider selling the items that have secured loans in order to remove your name and liability from the debt.   Otherwise, you should consider refinancing the loan.   Plus, the payments may be factored as your debt when qualifying for new loans, such as a  mortgage.

Should your ex-partner decide they want to keep the house, require that they refinance the mortgage so that your name can be removed from the debt.   Deeding the property from one person to another does not remove the liability of the mortgage.   Even if your partner is a really nice person right now, if they lose their job 5 or 10 years from now, and your name is still on the mortgage, it will dramatically impact your credit if the bills are not being paid. 

If your ex-partner does not qualify for a refinance of the property, then how can you expect them to make the payment?  It’s too risky.   

One of my friends went through a divorce.  Her ex really wanted the house.  He did not qualify for the mortgage on his income alone and wasn’t thrilled when she insisted that he needed to refinance to take her name off of the mortgage.   Although it was a tough decision, they sold the house and split the proceeds.   He remarried and bought another house with his new wife and in just a few years, filed bankruptcy and the home was foreclosed.   Imagine what would have happened to her credit if she would have accepted the cash offer of her share of equity without refinancing the mortgage out of her name?  She would have been responsible and included in the foreclosure.   Her credit would have been trashed and it would be extremely difficult for her to buy a home.   

Should you divorce, your divorce decree will not override your agreements with creditors.   It’s important to be proactive and to always take steps to protect your credit.  Although credit scores are reflective and not permanent, bankruptcy and (especially) foreclosure will impact your credit scores and interest rates for years.

Remember, take precautions with your mortgage, credit history and consult with an attorney if you are considering a possible divorce.

Debt and Your Mortgage

Istock_000002310753medium_3This is the second part of my series on debt inspired by the blog Dollar Buy Dollar.  Before I get too deep into my posts, I want to stress that if you have a mortgage and you are sliding further into debt, please contact your Mortgage Professional as soon as possible.   Don’t wait.  It may feel better to dig your way out without help, however, credit card lates and even worse, mortgage lates, will ding your credit score down to where either:

  1. Your rate for a possible refinance or equity loan is much higher as rates are credit score based.
  2. You no longer qualify for a mortgage at the loan to value you need for debt relief.   (The amount of equity-loan to value-that is allowed to borrower is also credit score based).

I’m not a huge fan for using one’s equity as a cash card.   However if your equity can bail you out of a desperate debt situation and if you are capable of changing your spending and savings habits so you don’t wind up having to tap your equity again, then it makes sense.   

I cannot emphasize enough how important it is to take action right away.  Especially in our current mortgage "subprime" climate where it is tougher to qualify for loans with lower credit scores.  If your scores plumet too low and if you are not able to access  your equity, you may be forced to sell your home.   A mortgage late is more devistating to your scores than a credit card late and any recent lates will zap your score (mortgage lates carry more weight than a credit card late).    Credit is reflective, so the more time since a late payment, the more your score will rebound.

Recently I helped a couple where the homeowner, who was self employed successfuly for over 20 years ran into hardships with his business.   He wound up relying on credit cards to try to "bridge" his lack of income.   In a short period of time, he was not able to pay his credit cards or keep up with his mortgage.   He has a beautiful home valued around $700,000 and a mortgage balance of $250,000.   He wound up with a 120 day late (3 months of not paying a mortgage–preforeclosure).   His then Fiance helped to get him current on his mortgage, he was lucky!   However the mortgage he had was ugly.   The Fiance contacted me about refinancing their high rate subprime loan he was currently in.  She had credit scores over 700 and his were around 400.   In addition to the "preforeclosure" on his mortgage, his credit report was full of collections and late payments.  Here’s what we had to do in order to help this couple in order for them to receive the best rate and program available:

  1. Wait until the 120 day late was 1 year old.  (We were six months away and were waiting for the underlying mortgage’s prepayment penalty to expire).
  2. They married and she was added to the title.   The lender wanted to wait until she was on the title for 6 months before they would close.
  3. He remained on the title (is still a vested homeowner) and is not on the new mortgage.
  4. His judgments had to be paid at closing.  (This was a cash out refinance to pay off all remaining derogotory debts).

We did a no income verifed loan with just her on the mortgage.   The new rate was just 0.25% over the available conforming rates with no prepay penalties.   Bottom line, he was fortunate that when he disclosed his situation to his partner, she was willing to stick around and help bail him out.   He’s also lucky that he owned a home and had enough equity that he could do the cash refinance or, if he had to, sell the home and have enough proceeds to pay off debt and have a savings left over.

If he didn’t have the mortgage lates, we could have refinanced his loan much sooner.     It all worked out for the couple…now newlyweds!   Restructuring the mortgage to eliminate the debts has made a dramatic difference in their lives.   Your Mortgage Professional may or may not be able to help "bail you out".   At the very least, a qualified Mortgage Professional can help you decide which debts to pay first.   I’ll address that issue in my next post for this series.

Watch CNN’s video on Dollar Buy Dollar and couples who hide debt from each other.

Related Post: The Debt Disease…Dollar Buy Dollar; Borrower Beware

The Debt Disease…Dollar Buy Dollar

ShredderThe other morning, I had CNN on as I was getting ready for work when a story about a local blog caught my attention.   Dollar Buy Dollar is authored from a Washington State resident who has found himself in quite the pinch by jacking up his credit card bills and student loans to a total that tipped over $70,000.   The blog is an honest (sometimes painfully honest) account on what he’s doing to try to get out of that mess.   This should be a must read for every senior in high school and anyone with more credit debt than savings.    Debt happens far too easily and, like packing on a few pounds, it’s much easier to gain it than to whittle it away.

The author of the blog is remaining anonymous and calls himself "Fellowes" (like his shredder).    Here is an excerpt from Fellowes most recent post:

  • Taking on debt has become a lifestyle for many people, something that seems to be actively encouraged by our consumerist society
  • Couples hiding/lying to one another about debt IS a huge problem
  • Debt and the seeming inability to pay it down, discuss it openly with your spouse or other members of your family has a HUGE impact on mental health, physical health and family stability
  • There is a tremendous amount of confusion about the “best” way to pay off debt while still maintaining one’s dignity and self-respect.

As a Mortgage Planner, I see consumer’s debts all day long when I’m completing a loan application or reviewing a credit report.   It can be a tremendous slippery slope for a family when your debts exceed your savings.   And with the national savings rate at below 0%, we are in more danger of a credit bubble ready to burst than a real estate bubble (at least in the Seattle area).

This is such an important topic and I personally believe that this issue is more wide spread and impacts more consumers than we know since it is often kept secret, as Fellowes mentions above.   Fellowes is receiving quite a bit of attention from his bit on CNN, many others are confessing their tough situations via comments to his posts.   Fellowes offers this heartfelt advise:

For those of you in the same situation. DONT WANT ANOTHER MINUTE. Overspending, lying and hiding from this can lead to other VERY destructive behaviors that can not only put your marriage at risk, but your life at risk. Go seek professional help if you can’t have the conversation with your spouse, but my all means HAVE the conversation. The hardest part of this whole ordeal was admitting how bad the problem was and that I my behavior was out of control. Paying in down and finding ways to negotiate and save and nickel and dime here and there is becoming a game for me, albeit a fun one. Thanks everyone for your support, suggestions and feedback. I will do my best to chronicle my journey and share other financial musings to keep you all coming back.

I will be following up with a series of posts on this topic.   You can consider this "Part One".

Are You Getting An Income Tax Refund?

Lucky you!  If you are, may I offer you a few suggestions?

  1. Look at adjusting how much income you are withholding from your pay.  A refund always feels like a bonus, but in reality, you’ve given the government an interest free loan.   Why not adjust how much is withheld from your paycheck each month by increasing your exemptions?   Give yourself a monthly spiff instead.
  2. Do you have credit cards with a balance over 50% or 30% of your credit limit?  Pay them down to below 50 or below 30% and give your credit score a boost.   
  3. Imagine how satisfied you would feel paying off a credit card with a high interest rate and cutting up the card? 
  4. Invest your refund into a traditional or Roth IRA or other retirement plan.
  5. Start a 529 account for your child.  It’s never too early to start saving for college.
  6. Save your refund towards a down payment or closing costs on your next home.  "Zero and low down" loans are much tougher to qualify for.   Especially if you have credit issues (which in that case, you should probably refer back to items 2 and 3).

Please do not get a income tax refund loan.   These loans are loaded with high interest with all intentions of you not paying them back once your refund shows up.  E-file and try to be patient.

As always, consult with your professional Mortgage Planner, CPA and/or CFP.  Everyone’s personal situation is unique and may call for a specific strategy and complete review of your financial information.