Buying a Home with Owner Occupied Financing After Refinancing Your Home as Owner Occupied

I’m seeing a trend where home owners are refinancing their current home as “owner occupied” and then weeks after closing, try buying another home as “owner occupied”.  You cannot have two owner occupied homes.   It’s really that simple. 

I’ve had a couple of surprised people contact me who thought they could buy a home just following a refinance only to learn by their mortgage originator that they have to finance the new home as an investment property.   Financing an investment property not only offers a slightly higher interest rate than a mortgage for a primary residence, it also has tougher guidelines with higher down payment requirements and greater reserves (savings).  

If you are considering refinancing your primary residence and possibly buying another home, you should discuss this with your mortgage originator as soon as possible.  You will be signing a deed of trust which has language that you intend to occupy that home for 12 months.  Some folks might feel that the “intending to occupy” means that they can refinance as owner occupied and a couple months later buy “owner occupied” and odds are, they will be caught.  It may be purely unintended for this to happen, but be prepared for the possibility the new purchase to be treated as an investment property, even if you’re going to live there. 

If you’re considering taking advantage of the lower home prices and lower rates, you may want to delay your refinance of your current “primary residence” or talk to your mortgage originator about refinancing your current home as an investment property.  Your next purchase might qualify as a second home, however the property typically needs to be about 50 miles away from your primary residence (the one you just refinanced) and it is the underwriter’s call on whether or not the second home “makes sense”…this can be a real grey area.  

Life happens and we know plans change. Be upfront with your mortgage professional if you’re thinking about buying a home.  You may want to ask them to verify with your personal scenario with an underwriter.  Finding yourself in the middle of a transaction to buy your next home and having it declined as owner occupied can be an expensive experience.

Related post:

Is it a Primary Residence, Second Home or Investment Property

Can I Convert My Existing Home to an Investment Property to Buy My Next Home?

You Don’t Have to Lock Your Rate to Start Your Refi

If you are interested in refinancing, or even buying a home, you don't need lock in your rate at application.  A majority of the Seattle area clients I work with, delay starting the refinance process until rates reach the point where they are wanting to lock.   A mortgage rate lock commits a specific interest rate and program for a certain period of time.

If your are serious about refinancing and rates are within range of your goal but you're not ready to lock, I recommend starting your loan application prior to the lock.  This gets one step out of the way and allows your mortgage originator to review your information and to make sure that the rate you're being quoted is accurate.  We will provide you with your preliminary loan documentation and work on your credit approval.

One benefit of delaying your lock is that a shorter lock period may be required for processing your transaction.  It may also help avoid an extension, should the rate lock expire.   The risk, however, is that you miss out on today's very low rates.  Borrowers should consider which risk they can tolerate more: the risk of locking in too early and having rates improve or the risk of locking in too late and having rates rise.  Personally, I'm not a "floater"…if I like the rate, I lock it….but it is the borrower's choice.

If your home is located in Washington state, where I'm licensed to originate, I'm happy to help you with this.  There is no cost to you until the appraisal is ordered and the appraisal can be postponed until you decide to lock.  And if you complete your application with me on line (click "apply here") I'm currently offering a $300 credit towards your closing costs when your mortgage funds with Mortgage Master Service Corporation.

So what are you waiting for?

Seattle Skyline Over the Years

This video is actually very clever marketing for the proposed new building Fifth and Columbia in downtown Seattle.

Fannie Mae’s HomePath Program

EDITORS NOTE: Fannie Mae is no longer offering the FannieMae HomePath mortgage program. If you are considering buying a Fannie Mae HomePath property (foreclosure that is owned by Fannie Mae) in Washington state, I’m happy to help you.

Fannie Mae’s HomePath program is available to purchase qualified foreclosed homes (owned by Fannie Mae) with expanded conventional guidelines, competitive mortgage rates and often times, with special incentives.

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Mortgage Master Service Corporation is OPEN on Columbus Day

Columbus Day is this Monday, October 11, 2010.   Most banks are closed but Mortgage Master Service Corporation will be open for business.  We will not be able to fund loans however we CAN lock in new rates and process your refinance or purchase transactions.

Both King County and Snohomish County's recorders offices are open.  However Pierce County's recorders office is closed.   Hat tip: The Talon Group.

Bank of America Stays Committed to Correspondent Lenders

Today Bank of America announced that it's existing wholesale lending.

"Bank of America  Home Loans will exit the first mortgage wholesale channel to focus more operational resources toward fulfillment capacity for it's…retail channel…. Bank of America will also devote additional resources toward enhancing its leadership positions in correspondent and warehouse lending…" 

My employer, Mortgage Master Service Corporation, IS a correspondent lender.  And we work with Bank of America as well as Chase (who elected not to terminate their relationship with mortgage brokers a while ago).

Why is this happening to mortgage brokers?  The "why" is debatable and not so simple.  I'm sure that loans originated by correspondent lenders tend to perform better than those by mortgage brokers as a whole.   Correspondents have far more liability (aka "skin in the game") than a broker when originating a mortgage as they have the potential for buybacks down the road or a loan not being purchased by the lender, leaving the loan in their line of credit.   

But…even though I'm technically not a mortgage broker, I find this occassion sad.  There are many outstanding mortgage brokers who have originated stellar loans which have benefited banks.  Wholesale Bank Reps have called on mortgage brokers for years explaining their program guidelines with the hopes of gaining more business for the bank.   After the mortgage broker originates the loan and it closes with that bank, they do their best to retain that client.

By the way, I believe the last "subprime" presentation in our office was by Countrywide (now Bank of America)…oh I wish I had my Livescribe pen back then…I would be able to share my old notes.

My Notes from Class

Just over a week ago, I was invited by Professor Richard Green to participate on a panel at USC Lusk Center for Real Estate.   One of the wonderful  benefits about blogging is that I’ve met so many people and have had amazing experiences that without my blog, odds are I would not have opportunities such as this.   Richard and I have had conversations via social media over the past few years but this was our first time meeting “IRL” (in real life).  

This was an evening class with around 100 students of all ages and backgrounds.  Some are full time students, others have day jobs and a few admitted to being former mortgage brokers.  I was on the panel with two gentlemen.  One is a private banker from Beverly Hills with Wells Fargo.  He originates high end mortgages and he has worked in wholesale too (wholesale reps call on non-bank mortgage originators, like mortgage brokers and correspondent lenders to send their bank loans).   The other gentleman is more on the “after” the mortgage is originated scene.  He deals with “scratch and dent” mortgages.  Basically, a ”scratch and dent” mortgage is one that the intended lender/investor refuses to buy due to errors made on the loan or possibly even fraud.  It’s very expensive for banks and correspondent lenders wind up with a “scratch and dent” mortgage in their credit lines.  His company purchases scratch and dent mortgages (at a discount).  They may then review the issues causing the mortgage to be considered “scratch and dent” and may try to correct or improve the issue with the goal of being able to sell the mortgage.   I represented a “classic” residential mortgage originator…almost sounds a little boring compared to my fellow panelist! 

Professor Green had a few questions cued for us to answer and class participated with their questions as well.   The discussion ran from underwriting issues with residential mortgages to how guidelines were influenced by what Wall Street would buy.  By the way, it sounds like reserves (how much liquid assets are remaining after closing) is carrying more weight than credit scores when potential investors are looking at purchasing mortgage backed securities.  Reserves are becoming a more important factor with forecasting the performance of a mortgage (the higher the reserves equals lower odds of default).   This was probably one of the most surprising nuggets of the evening to me.  

Professor Green asked me to address why I never originated an Option ARM when so many other mortgage originators did.    Students question how effective the current credit scoring modules are and if larger down payments should be required with FHA insured loans. 

The closing question caught me off guard a bit.  Professor Green asked if we see ourselves in our current careers five years from now.  I’m very concerned that we could see only a few choices for American consumers with regards to their mortgages–meaning the banks (3 or 4) have it all.  Without competition, mortgage rates and fees will be higher.  Congress all ready holds mortgage bankers to a lower standard than a non-bank originator per SAFE Act requirements.  Many banks are touting the newer compensation structures of their LOs as a benefit to consumers but if the LO is making less and the rate is the same or higher — is it better for the consumer if they pay more (and the bank is making more)?   

My hope is that I can continue doing what am doing.  Originating residential mortgages at a non-bank mortgage company.   Mortgage Master Service Corporation has been a family owned company since 1976–this is where I belong.  My father-in-law, Bob Porter, retired from Mortgage Master Service Corporation in his seventies.  I would like to do the same. 

I am very honored that Professor Green invited me to participate on the mortgage panel for his class.  Over the years, I’ve received plenty of attention and speaking opportunities regarding my social media efforts (which I’m thankful for)… to be selected to share my knowledge of residential mortgages and my opinions with a room of students from USC is a true highlight for me and something I will always remember.  I wish I could have recorded the entire event.

PS:  Be sure to check out:  Richard’s Real Estate and Urban Economics Blog

My New Phone: The Droid-X

I recently switched from a Blackberry Storm to a Droid X. It's a bit of an adjustment and so far I'm very pleased with my new phone…I am actually writing this post from the Droid X's extra large keypad using Typepad's mobile application. 

I thought I would share a few notes and favorite apps with you now that I've had this phone for a couple weeks.   Many folks ask me "why not an iPhone?"  Verizon doesn't have one yet and I wanted my new phone yesterday (actually a few weeks ago).  Honestly I'm not sure that I would like an iPhone any better than my Droid-X.  Here's a comparison by between these two popular smart phones by PC World–the operating system for Droid X has recently been upgraded to 2.2 Froyo (don't ask me what that means–I guess it's suppose to be better).

Please keep in mind that I am NOT an expert with the Droid, Google or the thousands of applications.  Some of the applications deserve a post of there own!

Droid is short for "Android" and is Google's answer to the smart phone arena.  My phone is a Droid-X.  Some of the features that drew me to this model was the larger screen (so it's easier for me to use the keyboard) and that it can act as a wireless mobile hotspot.  The Droid X has seven screens for you to organize your favorite applications.  Another feature I like about my Droid is that it does not have be teathered to my computer for updates or back ups. 

If you're considering a Droid, I suggest you start with a visit http://www.google.com/mobile/android where they have videos of some of the basic apps, like your contacts and fun extra's like Google Goggles.   

If you have Gmail or use Google docs, such as the calendar (which instantly syncs with your Droid), you're one step ahead of new Driod users like me!  I've been kind of behind using Google apps before my Driod–that's changing rapidly and I'm loving convenience!  You don't have to use Gmail, I was able to set up my default email accounts quite easily.

Between importing my Facebook and Gmail contacts, my phone's database is pretty set.  Originally I also uploaded my Twitter friends, but with following over 2000, it was a bit cumbersome. I personally decided to not use Twitter–it may work just fine for you. I keep my Twitter friends handy on my Droid by using Hootsuite's free version.  (If someone out there is using the upgrade, please let me know if the few extra bucks is worth it).

Speaking of apps… oh my gosh!!  Here's a quick list of what I've downloaded so far:

You will probably want to check into Advanced Task Killer (Free).   Your Droid will run more programs than needed and the Task Killer will keep your Droid in line and free up memory when unneccessary programs are running.

I am using GoogleVoice for my voice mail.  This is a great ap that transcribes your voicemail so that you can read it — great for if you're in a meeting and cannot take a phone call.  

Voice Actions for Andriod (requires 2.2 or higher) allows me to verbally give my Driod commands, from sending a text or email to searching for a favorite song on Pandora.Photo shot with DroidX 

Dropbox is great for sharing between your computer and Droid and you can even share with friends.  Of course I have Facebook, Hootsuite (for Twitter) and Yelp.   Adobe Photoshop Express if fun, if you're into photography, with your 8meg built-in camera.   NOTE:  I (okay, my son) took this photo in Spokane, used photo-editing applications that came with my phone.  I used Dropbox to instantly upload it to my computer.

For real estate, check out Zillow's ap and The Talon Group has a mobile ready site at www.talonnw.com/togo where you can keep track of your transactions.

I like Epicurious, a free ap which allows me to check out recipes while I'm at the grocery store and Kindle is great if I want to purchase a book to read.  My guilty pleasure, for when I'm waiting in the car at the West Seattle True Value Hardware parking lot while hubby's shopping is: Finger Bowling.

I'm still learning about my new phone–do you have a Droid?  What are your favorite applications and features?  I admit–I still have a lot to learn about this phone and I'm having fun doing so!