Rate shopping to select who will be assisting you with your next mortgage is similar to playing “liars poker”. The Loan Originator who is the most successful at bluffing wins. The fact is, unless you’re locking in the rate at the moment you’re shopping, you don’t have that rate. It’s a rate quote–that’s all. Mortgage rates change throughout the day. They are based on mortgage backed securities: bonds. Some lenders I work with offer “live pricing” and others issue rate sheets; sometimes we can have several rate sheets offered by a lender during one day.
Picking your next mortgage by rate shopping? You might as well be playing Liar’s Poker.
You don’t need 20% down to buy a house: 100% and 97% LTVs
In light of the tightening guidelines in the mortgage industry, I can understand how a consumer might think they need to save up a hefty down payment to purchase a home. The fact is, there are many programs available that allow minimum down payments. Here’s a small sample:
Conventional
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac both offer 100% loan to value programs with either LPMI (lender paid mortgage insurance) or monthly private mortgage insurance. Conforming loan limits do apply (currently $417,000 for a single family dwelling). 620 minimum credit score. These programs may allow gifts from family as well.
FHA
The down payment for a FHA insured mortgage is approximately 3%. Sellers can contribute up to 6% as long as the buyer is investing a minimum of 3% into the transaction. Gifts from family are acceptable for the entire down payment and closing costs. Loan limits do apply. Very competitive interest rates with low monthly mortgage insurance (upfront mortgage insurance is financed into the loan). FHA mortgages do not use credit scores (it does consider credit history) and do consider alternative credit for borrowers who have not established a credit history.
VA
The original zero down loan created for Veterans. Sellers can pay all of the closing costs if negotiated in the purchase and sale agreement (also referred to as "double zero down"). Interest rates are very competitive with conforming rates. There is an upfront VA funding fee that is typically financed into the mortgage. There is no monthly mortgage insurance.
To find out if you qualify for one of these programs, contact a qualified Mortgage Professional in your area. Be wary of any lender who instantly steers you away from FHA or VA financing. This could simply be a case of them not being an approved lender and therefore they’re not able to offer it.
Regardless of what the underwriting findings are on any of these loans, when you’re buying a home, I strongly recommend that you have a minimum of 3-6 months of savings available in your accounts after closing. Life happens…even when you own a home and it’s best to have an emergency cushion in the event you need it.
Comparing Good Faith Estimates
Earlier a Mortgage Porter reader contacted me regarding working with their Builder’s Loan Originator. They faxed their Good Faith Estimate to me to help review their closing cost fees associated with the rate. You can click on either estimate for a larger view. Here is the Builder’s preferred lender’s estimate 30 Year at 6.25% (APR 6.4246%): 
Here is my estimate 30 Year Fixed at 6.25% (APR 6.442%):
When comparing good faith estimates:
- Make sure you’re obtaining the same lock periods (in this case, both estimates are for 60 Day Locks) and that you’re getting your estimates at the same time on the same day (I used a rate sheet from October 10, 2007).
- Add up all the costs shown in Section 800 of the Good Faith Estimate. The total cost for the Builder’s GFE is $5200 and my GFE total cost is $4332.60. This is a difference of $867.40 (my estimate has lower costs).
- Ask each LO if they will guarantee the closing costs shown in Section 800. If they don’t, ask why not and listen hard. There’s no reason a LO cannot back up the closing costs they promote on a GFE once a borrower is approved and the loan is locked.
NOTE: The Builder Lender’s APR is lower than what I’m quoting, yet my APR is higher even though my costs are lower for the same rate. This is once again evidence why you DO NOT SHOP YOUR MORTGAGE BY APR.
I’m assuming the buyer has signed a purchase and sale agreement with the Builder who is offering a $5,000 closing costs credit if the buyer works with their lender. They’re charging a 0.25% Discount Fee (shown on Line 802 of both estimates) where I would not. The buyer should ask the builder’s lender why they’re charging a discount for that rate for 60 days when other lenders are not.
When you’re receiving a credit from a builder, you certainly want to make sure that you are receiving the full benefit and that it’s not being absorbed by the lender.
How Do Lenders Hide Fees?
I received this email from a reader last night:
I’m about to close on a home in Washington with a [major builder in a subdivision]. This is my first home and I enjoy reading your blogs. I’m in the process of shopping for a lender. I just wonder if you had any experience with [Builders Mortgage Company]. I’m being offered $5,000 toward closing fees [if I work with the builders lender]. I have been told to watch out for hidden fees that would wash away the $5,000 in the long run. The good faith estimate is comparable with other lenders. How can a lender hide fees? How much time do I have left before I have to decide on a lender?
How can a lender hide fees?
For starters, the house could have the credit for the closing cost built into the sales price. I have worked with agents who have negotiated the same credit working with me (not the builders preferred company). Some builders won’t budge.
On a good faith estimate, a Loan Originator may claim that certain fees are estimates only. You really should only shop a LO by the fees shown in section 800 of the Good Faith Estimate. And as I’ve discussed in previous posts, rate shopping can be quite a fruitless task. Ask a Mortgage Professional, perhaps one that you received an estimate from all ready, to review the good faith estimates that you have all ready received.
I suggest asking your Loan Originator if they will guarantee your closing costs within $100 of Section 800 of your Good Faith Estimate. This means that once you are approved and have locked in your interest rate, the LO should be able to provide you with closing costs plus or minus $100. If they won’t guarantee this, I would find a LO who will.
Watch for prepayment penalties which are disclosed on your Federal Truth in Lending. Loan Originators can make up for dollars lost there. If the box marked on the TIL states their “may be” a prepayment penalty, ASK! If you find out at closing you have a prepayment penalty and your Loan Originator did not disclose this upfront, don’t stand for it! The Escrow Officer should not be the person informing you of a prepayment penalty.
Some Loan Originators will play with costs outside of section 800 on the GFE to make their fees seem lower. Title and escrow we have no control over and it can vary quite a bit. Some LOs will throw in very lower than actual title and escrow costs. You can ask them who they’re using for rates or what their reference is. The purchase and sale agreement dictates who title and escrow providers are and what the level of title insurance will be.
Other ways LOs may contort their closing costs is with reserves and prepaids. Unless you have a closing day that is set or that you’ve provided a LO, Loan Originators should use 15 days. If they’re using 0 days of prorated interest with no closing date provided, they may be trying to pretty up their Good Faith Estimate. The amount of taxes that is required is based on when your first mortgage payment is due.
What you really need to watch when working with a builders lender who is offering $X in closing fees is the rate at the time you lock with the builder’s lender.
Contact three people you respect and trust (tax advisor, financial planner, friend, co-worker, etc.) and ask for referrals. Ask them for their mortgage professionals and then call and ask for rate quotes based on locking with a closing date of [when you’re closing] and based on the total fees in section 800 of the GFE. 1% in your loan amount typically equals 0.25% to rate. If your loan amount is $500,000, and your rate is 0.25% higher than the going rate, the LO may have made $5000 to compensate for the credit.
I would never recommend going blindly with any lender unless they were referred to you by someone you all ready know and trust. Do you know the builder personally or have any reason to trust them? If it’s the builder’s mortgage company, they have double incentive to do your loan and there are no free lunches.
Let your LO and the escrow company know that you will require a copy of the HUD-1 Settlement Statment at least one business day prior to your signing appointment. Compare this to your Good Faith Estimate and contact the LO and if there are descrepencies. Bring your Good Faith Estimate to your signing appointment.
Inform the LO when your signing appointment is and ask them to be available (by telephone at the very least). Call your Loan Originator from your signing appointment if you find errors they need to correct and be prepared to call their bluff if they don’t. After signing, you have less power to make corrections, if needed. Don’t be afraid to contact your real estate agent from the signing table if you’re experience other than what you have expected from your Loan Originator.
Escrow is (supposed to be) a neutral third party. They cannot tell you that you’re receiving a bum deal and they don’t always know for certain if you did (they may have a hunch. I can tell you from working the escrow side before being in mortgage, things look pretty different from the Loan Originators shoes…but you witness what seems to be people getting bum deals when you’re in escrow).
How Much Time Do I Have Before I Have to Decide On a Lender?
All Loan Originators desire 30 days for closing. Some of us “magicians” will pull off two weeks or less. I don’t recommend this—it’s stressful for all involved. The quicker you can decide if you want to work with the builder’s lender, the better. However, if you feel you need to make a change and that you’re getting a bum deal from your current lender you do have the right to switch during the process. Effective later this month, buyers will need to notify the sellers and essentially ask permission to switch lenders per the revised NWMLS purchase and sale agreements. Depending on how the market is, this will give builder-sellers the chance to bump buyers if the homes in their subdivision are selling for more than when the contract was written. This is all the more reason to do your homework about who your Mortgage Professional will be before you enter into a purchase and sale agreement Ideally, you should select your LO well before you begin shopping for your next home.
Hopefully you have found the right Loan Originator (what I like to refer to as a Mortgage Professional) from the get-go and this is all moot. Please don’t blindly go with any Loan Originator that has been referred to you by someone who has an interest in your transaction closing. If you have any doubts about your Loan Originator, get a second opinion NOW (yes, I’m shouting at ya…forgive me and thank me later).
A Sign of the Times
Buyer must ask Seller if they can change loans with the new Financing Addendum
Later this month, the Northwest MLS will be releasing a newly revised purchase and sale agreement. Of particular interest to me, as a lender, is the following on the Financing Addendum (Form 22A, page 1, paragraph 1):
"Buyer may not change the type of loan or the lender without the Seller’s prior written consent after the agreed upon time to apply for financing expires."
This is important for sellers because they would naturally assume from a preapproval letter that financing is proceeding. However, if the buyer decides to switch lenders for whatever reason, the seller is unaware that the buyer is not moving forward based on the preapproval letter that was originally presented with the mutually accepted purchase and sale agreement.
In order to avoid giving the seller a reason to balk at a transaction in progress, it looks to me like the buyer had better be preapproved and have their financing figured out prior to writing up a purchase and sale agreement. They should avoid program changes…and also…switching lenders mid-stream.
Apology not acceptable
Last night I had someone (who I thought was a client) email me stating:
"I appreciate your time and help with this thus far, but we’ve decided to go with a different source for our mortgage needs.
We feel going with someone more local to our area and whom already has a working relationship with our realtor is best for us. I hope you understand and again, thank you"
Fact is…I don’t understand at all.
I’ve met with this couple personally twice thus far and we have countless emails and phone calls back and forth at all hours of the day. I have them preapproved for their mortgage which is a 10% down jumbo that I structured the financing to obtain the best rates for them by structuring a conforming first and second combo. I have guided this couple and provided them with a strategy for buying their next home together. I have met every one of their mortgage needs.
They hooked up with a real estate agent who used my preapproval letter to secure their home and then did switch-a-roo to her preferred Loan Originator. It’s a sneaky snakey pass off when everything has been done. It’s steering the customer.
How would their real estate agent feel if I would have steered the buyers to another agent that I work with after she has invested the same amount of time with her? Whenever she called me, I responded immediately. I never gave her a reason to have doubt in my abilities as a Mortgage Professional. This is all about steering to her preferred lender. I wonder if it’s one their company has an interest in? I also wonder how the Listing Agent would feel if they knew that the lender who wrote the preapproval letter that was presented with the offer is not the lender being used for financing at this stage in the game? Should a Loan Originator retract their preapproval letter in this situation? Obviously, I’m not use to someone doing this to me and I’ll get over it. It’s simply not how I treat people.
I’m not sure if my bigger beef is with the real estate agent or the buyers.
Why should I understand? I don’t.
Concerned questions from a home owner regarding the “credit crisis”
The other day, one of my past clients asked me:
“I was wondering if there are issues that could arise if this credit crisis continues in a downward spiral? The market hasn’t been doing well in the past week with concerns about the “credit crisis”.
Is there any reason for concern that we could have our home loan called in early if our mortgage company gets into trouble? Are there other issues that we should be thinking about if this causes a ripple affect to other areas of the economy?”













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