Gifts from the Bank of Mom and Dad – Part 2: Conventional Financing

Often times when gifts from family members are involved, borrowers my opt to use FHA financing since the guidelines are (currently) more flexible than conventional with regards to gifts.   With FHA, a gift from a family member can go towards to borrowers minimum required investment with conventional financing, it cannot.

Here’s an example.  Let’s say we have a sales price of $265,000 with 10% down payment creating a loan amount of $238,500.  Once you factor in estimated closing costs of $2,400 and and prepaids/reserves of $3,100; the amount due at closing is roughly $32,000 (10% down = $26,500 + $2,400 + $3,100).   The borrowers also have a $5,000 contribution towards closing costs from the seller.

At this loan to value, with conventional financing requires that the borrower invests a minimum of 5% of their own personal funds into the transaction.  Unlike FHA, these funds cannot be gifted from the family members.   NOTE: if the gift is 20% down or more, the 5% rule for conventional financing does not apply (the whole down payment can be gifted).

Staying with our example, this means that the borrower must contribute 5% of $265,000 of their “seasoned” funds = $13,250.

With the amount due at closing at $32,000, the borrower must contribute at least $13,250 (5% of the sales price) of their own funds towards the $32,000 (10% down payment).  This leaves $18,750 remaining “due at closing”.   The borrowers earnest money check (if sourced – meaning documented as being their own funds) can count towards the 5% investment requirement and so can deposits with the mortgage company.   For example, the our borrowers submitted an earnest money check in the amount of $5,000 with their purchase and sales agreement, they would have $8,250 remaining to invest into the transaction of the 5% requirement ($13,250 – $5,000 = $8,250).

Once the borrower meets the 5% down payment, the gift and any seller credits can be applied towards the transaction.   A seller contribution can only go towards allowable closing costs and prepaids.  With this scenario, that totals $5,500 ($2,400 + $3,100).  The seller cannot contribute more than $5,500 (actual closing costs and prepaids).  

Unlike a seller contribution, the gift from parents can be applied towards down payment or closing costs/prepaids, once the borrower’s 5% investment is met.  If your gift from the parents is larger than the remaining amount due at closing, you can either reduce your loan amount or not use the entire gift.  NOTE:  Your parents may want to check with tax adviser regarding possible tax implications with gifting funds.

With FHA financing, their is also a minimum required investment from the borrower, which is currently 3.5% of the sales price.  A gift from parents CAN be applied towards the borrowers minimum required investment (the 3.5%).

When parents provide a gift with conventional or FHA financing, they need to be prepared to provide documentation of where the funds came from.  They will sign a gift letter and provide a recent bank statement showing that the funds are available.  There also needs to be a “paper trail” documenting the transfer of the gift funds (photo copy EVERYTHING–you’re better off having too much paper work to provide your mortgage originator than not enough).

If you have questions about financing a home located in Washington State, please contact me, I’m happy to help!  We have both FHA and conventional programs available.

Related post:  Gifts from the Bank of Mom and Dad – Part 1: FHA

FHA Flips for Flipped Homes (Some Restrictions Apply)

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UPDATE: HUD HAS EXTENDED THIS WAIVER THROUGH DECEMBER 2014.  Information in this post from March 2010 may be outdated – as are many blog posts about mortgages (thanks to our ever changing guidelines).

I recently shared with you some of the upcoming changes to FHA insured loans that were addressed in a letter from HUD’s David Stevens.  In this letter, he reminds readers that FHA has recently “waived the regulation that prohibits the use of FHA financing to purchase properties that are being resold within 90 days of previous acquisition”.

Due to previous FHA guidelines, investors who purchased homes to renovate and resale in a short period of time (90 days), would not be able to accept an offer from an FHA buyer.  They were limited to cash buyers or those who qualified with conventional financing.  From Stevens:

“During this period of high foreclosures, FHA wants to encourage investors that specialize in acquiring and renovating properties to renovate foreclosed and abandoned homes for homebuyers.  Our aim is to help stabilize real estate prices as well as neighborhoods and communities where foreclosure activity has been high.  The waiver is applicable to all properties being resold within the 90-day period acquisition and is not limited to foreclosed properties.”

The waiver takes effective February 1, 2010 and not every flipped home will qualify.  Per the Waiver of Requirements:

  • All transactions must be arms-length with no identity of interest between buyer and seller or other parties participating in the sales transaction.
  • If the sales price of the property is 20% or more above the seller’s acquisition cost be prepared for extra scrutiny.  A second appraisal will be likely required as well as an inspection ordered by the lender.

The waiver is set to expire one year, unless it is extended or withdrawn from the Commissioner.   More information is expected to follow from a HUD Mortgagee Letter.

Currently, the FHA loan limits for single family residences in King, Pierce and Snohomish counties is $567,500.   FHA mortgage insurance is set to increase on case numbers issued April 5, 2010 and later.  And this summer, the amount a seller can contribute to allowable closing costs will be reduced from 6% to 3%.

I won’t mention that the Home Buyer Tax Credit is expiring in 50 days on April 30, 2010 (oops…guess I just did)!

If you would like a rate quote for an FHA insured mortgage for homes located anywhere in Washington, please click here. I have been originating FHA mortgages at Mortgage Master Service Corporation since April 2000 and I’m happy to help you.

Friends Don’t Let Friends Miss Out on THE Premier Real Estate Event in Seattle

The Pacific Northwest Housing Summit and Seattle RE Barcamp 2010 are less than two weeks away!

It's time to rsvp to both events, if you haven't done so all ready.  Preregistration for the Pacific Northwest Housing Summit will save you $10!  RE Barcamp is free–but knowing how many folks to expect before the event is very helpful.

If you are in any aspect of the real estate industry–you don't want to miss out on either of these events.

I look forward to seeing you March 18th and 19th at the Seattle Center!

More Changes Coming to FHA Insured Mortgages

Federal Housing Commissioner David Stevens has released a letter confirming that the upfront mortgage insurance premiums on FHA insured loans will increase effective on case numbers issued on April 5, 2010 and after.  Most FHA transactions will see an increase of 50 basis points to 2.25%.  Currently the upfront mortgage insurance premium (which is typically financed–added to the loan) is 1.75% of the loan amount.  This was issued in a Mortgagee Letter in late January and is "old news". 

His letter also provides notice that other changes that were discussed by HUD earlier (but not included in that mortgagee letter) will be posted in the Federal Register soon and will go into effect this summer.

What will impact most FHA borrowers this summer is the decrease in allowed seller concessions.   Currently FHA allows sellers to pay up to 6% of the sales price towards allowable closing costs.  In a few months, this will be reduced to 3%.  

Also this summer, FHA will require borrowers with a credit score of less than 580 to have a 10% down payment.  Most lenders, including Mortgage Master, have a minimum credit score of 620 currently for FHA loans.

Commissioner Stevens also addresses a recent announcement:

FHA has waived the regulation that prohibits the use of FHA financing to purchase properties that are being resold within 90 days of previous acquisition.  The waiver of regulation took effect for all sales contracts executed on or after February 1, 2010.

A Mortgagee Letter which will have more details, will follow and there are certain conditions that must be met for a property to be eligible for the property waiver.

As you can see, mortgage guidelines are still very much in a tightening mode.  It's hard to say just how long this trend will continue or how long it will last.

It’s Not You, It’s Your Neighbors

Mortgageporterhome One of the most challenging aspects with refinancing homes in the Seattle area is the appraisal.  It doesn't really matter what you paid for it or how much you love your home.  What is probably going to impact the appraised value of your home the most is what your former neighbors have sold their homes for. 

If your neighbor had to drastically drop their sales price to sell their home, it may impact your home value.   The closer their home is located to your home and the more similar to your home, the more weight that home will have as a "sales comparable" to the appraiser. With fewer sales for an appraiser to rely on for sales comparables to your home, it can make it even tougher.  

Appraisers today need to ideally find three – four recently sold homes in your neighborhood to create a value for your home.  They also need to comment on the real estate market and how long homes are typically staying listed.

When I'm helping a home owner who's considering refinancing their home in Washington, I'll do my best to review recent sales in their area and I tell you, it's not an easy job!   At the very least, I'll share what I find with the home owner so they can have a rough idea of what the appraiser may be viewing as well.

If you get a low appraisal, thanks to HVCC (and NY Attorney General Coumo) your mortgage originator cannot order a new appraisal as that's considered "value shopping".   Worse case scenario, if a home owner does not qualify for a home affordable refinance after discovering the appraised value is lower than expected, they may be out the cost of the appraisal (typically around $500).

As home sales pick up and sales prices begin to rise, appraised values will eventually pick up.  Remember, an "appraised value" is different than how you value your home and it's reflective–it will change up or down over time.  Unless you are selling or refinancing your home, what it would "appraise for" doesn't really matter.

Dawn’s Army is doing The Big Climb for the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society

Bigclimb My husband and step-son will be marching up 69 floors of the Columbia Tower on Sunday, March 21, 2010.   They're doing this as part of the team proudly called Dawn's Army to raise funds for the Leukemia and Lymphoma Societyalong with friends, family and Dawn Appel's former co-workers at The Talon Group.

This is not the first time this team has assembled for their friend, Dawn Appel.  Dawn has been battling Acute Lymphocytic Leukemia long enough for this to be the third annual climb by her friends.

The Columbia Tower is located in down town Seattle and many will climb (some race) 1,311 steps for this worthy cause in just a few weeks. 

Please click here if you can make a donation–every bit helps!

Thank you.

How Much Should I Pay for an Adjusted Origination Charge

I love reading how people found Mortgage Porter via search engines.  Apparently someone has been doing some research on how much their adjusted origination charge "should" be.  The new 2010 Good Faith Estimate was designed by HUD with the intent that consumers would be able to shop mortgages using a more meaningful document.  The 2010 GFE is suppose to be an easier tool for home buyers and those considering refinancing to make educated decisions about their mortgage. 

What HUD and mortgage rate shoppers alike cannot control is how often mortgage rates change…just as with the pre-2010 good faith estimate, if you are selecting your largest debt (your mortgage) on your largest asset (your home) by interest rate alone, you're doing so with a moving target.  The 2010 GFE does provide the consumer with some protection as to how much certain closing costs may change, it cannot and does not protect the consumer against unlocked rate changes depending on what the mortgage originator uses for an expiration period on the GFE in the "important dates" section.

What also has not changed is how mortgage rates are priced.  Home buyers and home owners interested in refinancing still have the option of having their mortgage priced with or without points or origination fees.  They simply need to communicate this to the mortgage originator.  Lower closing cost tends to equal a higher interest rate (typically, but not always, 1% of the loan amount tends to pencil out to 0.25% in interest rate).  Mortgage rate shoppers will still need to compare interest rate to closing costs keeping in mind that the rate shown on the GFE may no longer be available by the time they select a mortgage lender.

The 2010 Good Faith Estimate includes additional fees than just the origination on the "adjusted origination charges".  The fees reflected in this section may include:

  • loan origination fees
  • discount points
  • processing/admin fees
  • underwriting fees
  • funding fees
  • doc prep
  • wire fees
  • other misc. lender fees charged by the lender when originating a mortgage

For example, if a mortgage originator provides an estimate priced with zero origination or discount points, the adjusted origination charges may still show fees if they have an underwriting or funding fee (any fees listed above).  You can request the mortgage originator provide you with an itemized list of fees when reviewing an estimate. 

When reviewing the 2010 GFE make sure that you're also factoring in the lock period the mortgage originator is using (the shorter the lock period, the less expensive your rate will be).  Obtaining a rate quote based on a 15 day lock looks great and is useless if your transaction is closing in 30 days.  (Refer to the "important dates" section on page one of the GFE).

Don't forget, if your mortgage originator won't provide you with a good faith estimate on your home located in Washington State, I will.  Many LOs are reluctant to issue the 2010 GFE because of the liabilities associated with guaranteeing closing costs.

Second Opinions on Good Faith Estimates

Update August 15, 2010:  Since 2010, HUD has created a new GFE and rate shoppers may find a challenging time obtaining an estimate from a mortgage originator without meeting what HUD constitutes an application.  Many mortgage originators are issuing "rate quote work sheets" with a Good Faith Estimate to follow once the 6 points of information (application including a credit report).

EDITORS NOTE:  This is another personal favorite article that I wrote at Rain City Guide.  Since I'm taking a few days off from blogging, I thought I'd share it with my Mortgage Porter readers.   To read the original post including the comments, please visit Rain City Guide.  With the changes to the Good Faith Estimate that have happened in 2010, this post is as relevant as ever.

A few weeks ago, one of the Realtors I work with, Suzy Seller, contacted me to see if I could help her client with an out-of-state mortgage.   Ima Rusty (names are changed to protect the innocent), was moving to Arizona to retire and perhaps see the sun.   Ima had gone to her “local bank mortgage company” since they had provided her mortgage for her home in Washington, for her financing on her new home.    For some reason, Ima was not feeling very confident with her lender after two weeks into the transaction.

Since I stick to lending in Washington State, I offered to review Ima’s good faith estimate for her.   The rate was fine and the closing costs all seemed in line…everything looked great until I noticed that on the Federal Truth In Lending, the box that states there “may be a prepay” was checked.    According to Ima, their credit is perfect.   She was completely unaware of a prepayment penalty.   After I encouraged her to contact the Loan Originator to ask if there is indeed a prepayment penalty.  Maybe the box was marked in error?  Here’s what Ima told me:

I was able to speak with our loan officer and arrange for the documents to be changed to reflect appropriate changes to allow prepayment of up to 20% of the loan amount within a 12 month period without penalty or fees thereby reducing the monthly payment.  I am satisfied that we’ve covered the areas which were of major concern and as far as I can see, we’re “good to go”.

He bamboozled her into thinking she did not have a true prepayment penalty.  He did not make any changes to her documentation…this is a boiler plate prepayment penalty.   I proposed one last question for her.   “What if you decide to sell the property next year”.   After all, what if after the Rusty’s move to AZ, they miss our rain and our four seasons?   That’s when she discovered that the prepayment penalty was for three years

Ima Rusty decides this is a bad deal.   After confronting the Loan Originator, the Rusty’s decide they want out.   The Loan Originator was unwilling to waive or reprice the loan without the prepayment penalty.   I have a hard time believing this was their only option.  Especially since the prepayment penalty was not explained (it was disclosed…only by sneaking it on the TIL) to the Rustys upfront.

I often review Good Faith Estimates to check on the rate, closing costs and prepayment penalties.   When a rate looks too good to be true (something I cannot come near offering), I encourage the borrower to see if they can lock it in and to have the LO provide a written lock confirmation.    I also advise borrowers to see if the Loan Originator will guarantee the closing costs (Section 800) on the good faith estimate.  A consumer should bring their Good Faith Estimate to their signing appointment to compare the closing costs with those on the HUD-1 Settlement Statement.   If a Loan Originator starts back peddling when asked these questions, I suggest that the borrower should do the same. 

Second opinions on Good Faith Estimates are FREE and any Mortgage Professional should be happy to provide this without running your credit.   

By the way, Ima Rusty use to work for an attorney…

I did send [Big Bank Mortgage] an email message which included reference to fair lending practices (not specifically predatory lending laws)…. I have been in touch with the Attorney General’s office and they seem to feel there’s some indication of senior exploitation in this case.  If we want to proceed with an investigation they are willing to do so…. Meanwhile, I’ve cancelled the [Big Bank Mortgage] loan and requested cancellation of our line of credit.