FHA Loan Limits will be higher than Conforming in Seattle for 2012

Well it looks like our Congress has passed loan limits for 2012 restoring FHA's higher "temporary" loan limits (pre October 1, 2011) and preserving the current loan limits for conventional mortgages.  

From the press release by the Appropriations Committee:

The bill does not increase the maximum loan limits for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. These entities have been under public scrutiny for their questionable businesses practices and use of billions in federal bailout funds, some of which have been used for extravagant management bonuses. The bill limits the increase in the conforming loan limits to only the Federal Housing Authority (FHA), which is subject to greater congressional scrutiny and oversight.

Congress is essentially punishing home owners for the sins of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac execs. Personally, I think it's too bad that they didn't state this was done to help stimulate private lending instead of using this as an opportunity to publically wag a finger at Fannie and Freddie.

It appears the loan limits for 2012 in King County, Pierce County and Snohomish County for a 1-unit property will be:

  • $506,000 for Conventional
  • $567,500 for FHA

Once the GSE's and HUD officially announce the conforming and FHA loan limits for 2012, I'll be posting them here.

Stay tuned!

Update Nov 22, 11: Here is FHFA's press release regarding the 2012 conforming loan limits confirming they will remain the same for 2012 – except for one county (not in Washington state).

It’s time for HUD to revamp the FHA Streamlined Refi

HUDHUD's Shaun Donovan was recently promoting Obama's jobs bill and the recently revised the Home Affordable Refinance (aka HARP 2.0).  Fannie and Freddie have revamped the Home Affordable Program to reduce the closing cost and eliminate the need for an appraisal on many qualified homes.

From Donovan last week on HARP for conventional refinances:

"…There are still millions of Americans who have worked hard and acted responsibly, paying their mortgage payments on time. But because their homes are worth less than they owe on their mortgage, they can’t refinance….

Just yesterday, the FHFA announced changes that will help more responsible borrowers take advantage of today’s low mortgage rates. These changes will knock down barriers such as closing costs and fees that can sometimes cancel out the benefit of refinancing altogether.

And by creating more competition so that consumers can shop around for the best rates, these changes will save homeowners on average $2,500 per year — that’s the equivalent of a pretty good-sized tax cut…"

With HUD promoting HARP 2.0, I'm hoping that they're taking a strong look at their own FHA Streamlined refinance.  FHA streamlined refi's already do not require an appraisal as long as the loan amount is not being raised over the balance of the existing FHA loan.  

The problem with the FHA streamlined refinance is that with the last adjustment to FHA's annual mortgage insurance and funding fee, it's more difficult to have these refi's pencil out. The annual premiums are so much higher than past insurance premiums that despite today's much lower rates, the higher insurance fees often cancel out the reduced rate benefit. Seattle area and other home owners who are not underwater with their home values may be able to switch to a conventional mortgage (with or without private mortgage insurance depending on the loan to value) and an appraisal will be required to prove the current value of the property.

In my opinion, with FHA streamlined refi's, HUD should either allow a reduced mortgage insurance rate for streamlined refi's and perhaps not offer a credit of the remaining upfront mortgage insurance premium. VA's IRRL loans offer a reduced funding fee of 0.5% for refi's.

Another option would be for HUD to allow the FHA borrower to refinance their FHA mortgage with the same FHA mortgage insurance premiums of their current FHA loan.  

HUD should also make it easier for borrowers with FHA ARM's to be able to do a streamlined refi into a fixed rate program.  Current guidelines require a reduction in payment of 5% and a caps the interest rate at no more than 2% higher than the ARM. If the borrower qualifies for the higher payment and they are opting for a fixed rate program, they should be allowed to do so.  Currently this eliminates borrowers from being able to streamline refi from an adjustable rate to a 15 year fixed.

HUD already has the risk with the loan, why not help Americans with FHA insured loans reduce take advantage of this current low rate environment by making FHA streamlined refinances more feasible? 

Mr. Donovan, it's time for HUD to knock down barriers such as closing costs and fees that can sometimes cancel out the benefit of refinancing altogether for FHA streamlined refinances.

EDITORS NOTE: This post was updated 11/21/2011 with the addition of the paragraph addressing changing the requirement for a steamline refinance out of an adjustable rate.

Conforming and FHA Higher Loan Limits MAY be Returning

The Senate has passed an amendment that will bring the temporary loan limits back through December 31, 2013!  In the Seattle/King County area, this means that the FHA and conforming high balance loan limit would increase from $506,000 to $567,500.

This still needs to pass the House.

It's like deja vue all over again! Congress yo-yo'd the loan limits a few years ago between the high balance and temporary high balance loan amounts.  Should Congress pass this and restore the higher loan limits, it may take banks some time to adjust to the changes. 

Stay tuned!

Refinancing Your Seattle Area “High Balance” Mortgage Over $506,000

If you obtained a high balance mortgage over the current limit ($506,000 in King, Pierce and Snohomish Counties) and missed the opportunity to refinance before the loan amounts were reduced, you may still have some options worth checking out. Especially with Fannie Mae hinting that loan limits may be reduced further in just a few months, effective January 1, 2012. FHA loan limits may be further reduced in 2012 as well. We typically learn what 2012 limits will be in November.  The gap between yesterday's higher loan limits and conforming/FHA loan limits may actually widen in a few months making most of these scenarios tougher to obtain in 2012.

Conventional Financing

Consider a Jumbo/Non-Conforming Mortgage. Fixed rates or adjustable rate mortgages may be worth your consideration depending on your financial plans. Non-conforming mortgages are for well qualified borrowers and require a minimum credit score of 720 and a maximum loan to value of 80%. Loan amounts of $506,001 and higher are now considered a jumbo in King County as well as Snohomish and Pierce.

Cash In Refinance. Not happy with how your investments are doing in the stock market? Some home owners are electing to use their savings or investments in to bring their principal balance down to the conforming loan limit.

Piggy Back Second Mortgage.  We currently are able to go up to 85% of the appraised value with a second mortgage.  The loan amounts can be structured to keep the first mortgage at 80% of the loan to value and/or at the county high balance conforming limit. Home owners need to be well qualified with credit scores of 720 or higher.  HELOCs and amortized fixed rates are available.

FHA Loans. If your existing mortgage is an FHA loan, you may be in luck. Although FHA loan limits were reduced on October 1, they are allowing streamline refinances of the former temporary higher loan limits.  UPDATE: FHA LOAN LIMITS FROM NOV 18, 2011 – DECEMBER 2012 ARE $567,500 IN KING, PIERCE AND SNOHOMISH COUNTY.

VA Mortgage Loans. Unlike conforming and FHA loans, VA elected to not reduce their loan limits (technically the guarantee) for the remainder of 2011.  

With mortgage rates at a historic lows, it may be worth your time to contact a licensed mortgage originator to review your options. Whether or not you should refinance depends on your personal goals and financial scenario.  If your home is located anywhere in Washington, I'm happy to provide you detailed written rate quotes with no obligation.

FHA Loan Limits for Washington homes from October 1, 2011 to December 31, 2011

UPDATE: This post is outdated – please check current loan limits listed on the links on the left.

It appears that Congress will not be passing an extension of the "temporary" higher loan limits any time soon.  Loan limits below are in effect from October 1, 2011 through December 31, 2011 and are for single family dwellings.  For a complete list, please visit HUD's site. I'll be updating my blog with 2012 FHA loan limits once they are made available (typically around November).

$506,000:  King County, Pierce County and Snohomish County

$483,000:  San Juan County

$384,100:  Clallam County

$362,250:  Clark and Skamania Counties

$342,700:  Chelan and Douglas Counties

$322,000:  Jefferson County

$316,250:  Island County

$307,050:  Kitsap County

$304,750:  Whatcom County

$295,250:  Skagit County

$293,250:  Thurston County

$271,050:  Adams, Asotin, Benton, Columbia, Cowlitz, Ferry, Franklin, Garfield, Grant, Grays Harbor, Kittitas, Klickitat, Lewis, Lincoln, Okanogan, Pacific, Pend Oreille, Spokane, Stevens, Wahkiakum, Walla Walla, Whitman and Yakima Counties.

NOTE: If you currently have an FHA High Balance mortgage that exceeds the loan limits shown above, you may still be eligible to refinance with an FHA Streamline refi (FHA to FHA) without an appraisal. If you have enough home equity, you may want to consider non-conforming (jumbo) programs.

The Low Down: Comparing FHA to Fannie Mae Homepath Mortgages


EDITORS NOTE: Fannie Mae is no longer offering the FannieMae HomePath mortgage program. If you are considering buying a Fannie Mae HomePath property (foreclosure that is owned by Fannie Mae) in Washington state, I’m happy to help you. 

If you’re thinking about buying a home with minimum down payment requirements in the greater Seattle area, you may be considering a property that is owned by Fannie Mae and eligible for the Fannie Mae Homepath Mortgage or using an FHA insured loan which most properties qualify for.  When home buyers contact me about a Fannie Mae Homepath mortgage, they often ask how it compares to an FHA insured loan. Both are great programs and the benefits may vary depending on credit score, down payment and the type of property.

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October Brings Few Treats for Mortgages

MortgagePorterOctoberEffective October 1, 2011, several changes are set to take place that will impact new mortgages, including Conforming, FHA and USDA loans. These changes will impact home buyers, home owners considering refinancing and some who are trying to sell their homes.

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HUD Issues Mortgagee Letter Addressing Lower Loan Limits for FHA Loans

Last Friday, HUD released Mortgagee Letter 11-29 announcing the maximum loan limits for FHA loans effective October 1, 2011 through December 31, 2011.  FHA loan amounts are set to be reduced effective October 1, 2011 and many who have a "high balance" or FHA jumbo loan may be "caught in gap" if they do not close in time.  

In the Seattle/King County area, FHA maximum loan amounts are set to be reduced from $567,500 to $506,000.  Kitsap County will see their maximum FHA loan limit drop to $307,000.  You can see an entire list of Washington Counties and the new FHA maximum loan amounts here.

The Mortgagee Letter does state that FHA to FHA refinances "may exceed new loan limits" which is a bit of good news for those who currently have a high balance FHA loan.  Here are some of HUD's requirements:

  • the new mortgage must be a refinance of an existing FHA-insured mortgage
  • the maximum loan amount of the new FHA mortgage, including all the fees, closing costs, mortgage insurance premiums, must not exceed the oroiginal principal amount of the existing FHA mortgage.  NOTE: if it does exceed the original principal balance, the borrower can provide cash to cover the difference.
  • the new mortgage may not have a term of more than 12 years in excess of the unexpired term of the existing FHA mortgage.
  • the new monthly payment must be less than the existing.

It appears that FHA to FHA refinances that are above the new loan limits do not have the same pressure as those who are planning on purchasng a home or refinancing a conventional loan to an FHA insured loan.  If you're in that boat, you need to paddle quick as the clock is ticking down for those loan amounts with barely over 30 days remaining and some lenders implementing their own cut-off times in advance of HUDs.

If you're interested in an FHA loan anywhere in Washington State, I'm happy to help you. I've been originating FHA mortgages for the past 11 years at Mortgage Master Service Corporation where we have our own in-house underwriters.