Refinancing Your Seattle Area “High Balance” Mortgage Over $506,000

If you obtained a high balance mortgage over the current limit ($506,000 in King, Pierce and Snohomish Counties) and missed the opportunity to refinance before the loan amounts were reduced, you may still have some options worth checking out. Especially with Fannie Mae hinting that loan limits may be reduced further in just a few months, effective January 1, 2012. FHA loan limits may be further reduced in 2012 as well. We typically learn what 2012 limits will be in November.  The gap between yesterday's higher loan limits and conforming/FHA loan limits may actually widen in a few months making most of these scenarios tougher to obtain in 2012.

Conventional Financing

Consider a Jumbo/Non-Conforming Mortgage. Fixed rates or adjustable rate mortgages may be worth your consideration depending on your financial plans. Non-conforming mortgages are for well qualified borrowers and require a minimum credit score of 720 and a maximum loan to value of 80%. Loan amounts of $506,001 and higher are now considered a jumbo in King County as well as Snohomish and Pierce.

Cash In Refinance. Not happy with how your investments are doing in the stock market? Some home owners are electing to use their savings or investments in to bring their principal balance down to the conforming loan limit.

Piggy Back Second Mortgage.  We currently are able to go up to 85% of the appraised value with a second mortgage.  The loan amounts can be structured to keep the first mortgage at 80% of the loan to value and/or at the county high balance conforming limit. Home owners need to be well qualified with credit scores of 720 or higher.  HELOCs and amortized fixed rates are available.

FHA Loans. If your existing mortgage is an FHA loan, you may be in luck. Although FHA loan limits were reduced on October 1, they are allowing streamline refinances of the former temporary higher loan limits.  UPDATE: FHA LOAN LIMITS FROM NOV 18, 2011 – DECEMBER 2012 ARE $567,500 IN KING, PIERCE AND SNOHOMISH COUNTY.

VA Mortgage Loans. Unlike conforming and FHA loans, VA elected to not reduce their loan limits (technically the guarantee) for the remainder of 2011.  

With mortgage rates at a historic lows, it may be worth your time to contact a licensed mortgage originator to review your options. Whether or not you should refinance depends on your personal goals and financial scenario.  If your home is located anywhere in Washington, I'm happy to provide you detailed written rate quotes with no obligation.

FHA Loan Limits for Washington homes from October 1, 2011 to December 31, 2011

UPDATE: This post is outdated – please check current loan limits listed on the links on the left.

It appears that Congress will not be passing an extension of the "temporary" higher loan limits any time soon.  Loan limits below are in effect from October 1, 2011 through December 31, 2011 and are for single family dwellings.  For a complete list, please visit HUD's site. I'll be updating my blog with 2012 FHA loan limits once they are made available (typically around November).

$506,000:  King County, Pierce County and Snohomish County

$483,000:  San Juan County

$384,100:  Clallam County

$362,250:  Clark and Skamania Counties

$342,700:  Chelan and Douglas Counties

$322,000:  Jefferson County

$316,250:  Island County

$307,050:  Kitsap County

$304,750:  Whatcom County

$295,250:  Skagit County

$293,250:  Thurston County

$271,050:  Adams, Asotin, Benton, Columbia, Cowlitz, Ferry, Franklin, Garfield, Grant, Grays Harbor, Kittitas, Klickitat, Lewis, Lincoln, Okanogan, Pacific, Pend Oreille, Spokane, Stevens, Wahkiakum, Walla Walla, Whitman and Yakima Counties.

NOTE: If you currently have an FHA High Balance mortgage that exceeds the loan limits shown above, you may still be eligible to refinance with an FHA Streamline refi (FHA to FHA) without an appraisal. If you have enough home equity, you may want to consider non-conforming (jumbo) programs.

The Low Down: Comparing FHA to Fannie Mae Homepath Mortgages


EDITORS NOTE: Fannie Mae is no longer offering the FannieMae HomePath mortgage program. If you are considering buying a Fannie Mae HomePath property (foreclosure that is owned by Fannie Mae) in Washington state, I’m happy to help you. 

If you’re thinking about buying a home with minimum down payment requirements in the greater Seattle area, you may be considering a property that is owned by Fannie Mae and eligible for the Fannie Mae Homepath Mortgage or using an FHA insured loan which most properties qualify for.  When home buyers contact me about a Fannie Mae Homepath mortgage, they often ask how it compares to an FHA insured loan. Both are great programs and the benefits may vary depending on credit score, down payment and the type of property.

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October Brings Few Treats for Mortgages

MortgagePorterOctoberEffective October 1, 2011, several changes are set to take place that will impact new mortgages, including Conforming, FHA and USDA loans. These changes will impact home buyers, home owners considering refinancing and some who are trying to sell their homes.

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HUD Issues Mortgagee Letter Addressing Lower Loan Limits for FHA Loans

Last Friday, HUD released Mortgagee Letter 11-29 announcing the maximum loan limits for FHA loans effective October 1, 2011 through December 31, 2011.  FHA loan amounts are set to be reduced effective October 1, 2011 and many who have a "high balance" or FHA jumbo loan may be "caught in gap" if they do not close in time.  

In the Seattle/King County area, FHA maximum loan amounts are set to be reduced from $567,500 to $506,000.  Kitsap County will see their maximum FHA loan limit drop to $307,000.  You can see an entire list of Washington Counties and the new FHA maximum loan amounts here.

The Mortgagee Letter does state that FHA to FHA refinances "may exceed new loan limits" which is a bit of good news for those who currently have a high balance FHA loan.  Here are some of HUD's requirements:

  • the new mortgage must be a refinance of an existing FHA-insured mortgage
  • the maximum loan amount of the new FHA mortgage, including all the fees, closing costs, mortgage insurance premiums, must not exceed the oroiginal principal amount of the existing FHA mortgage.  NOTE: if it does exceed the original principal balance, the borrower can provide cash to cover the difference.
  • the new mortgage may not have a term of more than 12 years in excess of the unexpired term of the existing FHA mortgage.
  • the new monthly payment must be less than the existing.

It appears that FHA to FHA refinances that are above the new loan limits do not have the same pressure as those who are planning on purchasng a home or refinancing a conventional loan to an FHA insured loan.  If you're in that boat, you need to paddle quick as the clock is ticking down for those loan amounts with barely over 30 days remaining and some lenders implementing their own cut-off times in advance of HUDs.

If you're interested in an FHA loan anywhere in Washington State, I'm happy to help you. I've been originating FHA mortgages for the past 11 years at Mortgage Master Service Corporation where we have our own in-house underwriters. 

Refi Window of Opportunity Closing Soon for Larger Loan Amounts

Mortgageporterwindow I'm working with a couple in Seattle who are looking at refinancing their current adjustable rate mortgage to a 30 year fixed.  Their proposed amount will be about $560,000 for a conforming high balance mortgage.  If they wait too long to start the refinance process, this transaction will not be eligible to be a conforming high balance mortgage as the loan limits in King County are dropping to $506,000. Although Fannie Mae states the roll-back in conforming loan limits is based on Notes dated prior to October 1, 2011, lenders will implement their own deadlines well in advance in order to avoid being caught holding a mortgage they can no longer sale as conforming. 

I know I've been writing about the pending deadlines a lot…whether or not you are for or against the reduction in loan limits, in my opinion, this will dramatically impact area home owners. 

What's the difference between jumbo (non-conforming) and conforming high balance mortgages?

  • Mortgage rates for fixed jumbo products are about 0.5% higher.  A higher rate equates to a higher mortgage payment which of course means it's tougher to qualify for.
  • Most jumbo loans require a low-mid credit score of 720 or higher.  If a spouse has a mid-credit score of 719 or lower, and nothing can be done to rescore, you may not qualify for a jumbo loan.
  • Most jumbo loans have a maximum loan to value of 80%.  Some of our lenders will go up to 85% using a second mortgage, however they require a 720 or higher credit score.
  • Jumbos tend to require the borrower has more assets in reserves than a conforming high balance mortgage.

Remember, it's not just conforming high balance loan limits that are dropping in a few weeks, FHA loan limits are too.

Many home owners who do not start the refinance process now are going to discover they no longer qualify for a refinance or the rate is not as attractive to where it makes sense.  Some who do qualify may wind up considering an adjustable rate jumbo in order to have an improved rate for a fixed period of time.

What loan amounts are soon going to be classified as a "jumbo"? It depends on which county in Washington your home is located in:

King, Pierce and Snohomish Counties: 

  • Conventional loan amounts between $506,001 and $567,500.
  • FHA loan amounts between $506,001 and $567,500.

Kitsap County:

  • Conventional loan amounts between $417,001 and $475,000.
  • FHA loan amounts between $307,050 and $475,000.

Jefferson County:  

  • Conventional loan amounts between $417,001 and 437,500.
  • FHA loan limits between $322,001 and $437,500.

San Juan County:

  • Conventional loan amounts between $483,001 and $593,750.
  • FHA loan amounts between $483,001 and $593,750.

Clark and Skamania Counties:

  • Conventional loan amounts between $417,001 and $418,750.
  • FHA loan amounts between $362,251 and $418,750.Jefferson County

The following counties do not have "high balance conforming" loan limits.  They will be seeing adjustments in FHA loan limits and have a short window to take advantage of these loan amounts:

Benton and Franklin Counties: FHA loan limits between $271,051 and $275,000.

Island County: FHA loan limits between $316,251 and $381,250.

Kittitas County:  FHA loan limits between $271,051 and $328,750.

Mason County:  FHA loan limits between $271,051 and $310,000.

Skagit County:  FHA loan limits between $295,551 and $373,750.

Thurston County: FHA loan limits between $293,251 and $361,250.

Whatcom County: FHA loan limits between $304,751 and $375,000.

If you're considering a mortgage with a loan amounts addressed in this post in any of these Washington counties, please don't delay your refinance or you may not be able to take advantage of the benefits that conforming or FHA loans provide (better rates and easier underwriting guidelines).  Fannie Mae has indicated that we may see loan limits further reduced effective 2012 (we won't have more information until around November of this year).

If you are in contract to purchase a home and potentially have a "future jumbo" loan amount (listed above), please contact your loan officer immediately to make sure you're closing in time or make sure that you qualify for a non-conforming mortgage if your closing date is beyond the deadline.

Please forward this post onto any of your friends, family or co-workers who may be impacted with the reduced loan amounts. I'm happy to help anyone who needs a mortgage for a home located in Washington state.  

UPDATE August 19, 2011: HUD has announced that FHA to FHA refinances may exceed the new lower loan amounts if the refi meets certain requirements.  

The Mortgage Hot Potato: High Balance Loan Amounts

Hotpotato If you're a subscriber to my blog, then you are probably already aware that conforming loan limits are going to be reduced in late September and that banks will issue their own deadlines in advance of what Freddie, Fannie, FHA and VA have established.

Fannie Mae's FAQs state they will continue to purchase the "temporary" high balance loans as long as the note date is September 30, 2011 or earlier. Lenders will not allow that much time as being caught with a loan that exceeds what will be the new loan limits is having an unsaleable loan to Fannie or Freddie.  It's now a jumbo/non-conforming.  Banks and lenders have to provide an earlier deadline in order to not get caught with a "hot potato" which will cost them dearly with the difference in pricing and guidelines. 

The difference in interest rate for a 30 year fixed with a jumbo and high balance conforming loan amount is around 0.50 to 0.75% in rate.  This morning, a conforming high balance rate for a 30 year fixed is currently 4.625% (apr 4.735).  If a lender wound up being stuck with a "hot potato" loan that had a delayed closing and/or late delivery, and they had to sell it as a jumbo, in order to buy the rate of 4.625%, it would cost (based on current pricing) around 1.75 – 3.5% of the loan amount to buy down the jumbo rate to the note rate.  For example, if a lender is stuck with a conforming loan on a King County property in the amount of $506,001, we're talking a cost of $8,850 to $17,700 depending on the lender.  If this loan does not meet jumbo/non-conforming guidelines, such as having mid-credit scores below 720, it will cost the lender even more. 

Earlier this week, I received proof of this from one of the lenders we work with:

All loans approved and expected to close under the current loan limits must close, fund, disburse and be delivered in purchasable form no later than Friday, September 30, 2011. THERE WILL BE NO EXCEPTIONS. Please review current pipeline and new applications as there is no guarantee as to Super Conforming limits if the loan disburses after September 30th.

In order to "deliver" a loan to this lender by September 30th, a mortgage company would actually need to "close, fund and disburse" about 10 days earlier to their deadline to avoid being caught with the "hot potato".  If you have a loan amount that is in the gap between current high balance limits (which have actually always been "temporary") and the new loan limits, you need to close your transaction by mid-September to be safe.  In the greater Seattle area, this would consist of loan amounts between $506,001 and $567,500.  Here's a list of the other counties in Washington that will suffer a drop in conforming loan limits.  

By the way, this doesn't just apply to conventional loans, FHA loan limits are dropping effective October 1, 2011 too.  I have not yet received a memo from lenders we work with stating what their cut-offs are.  I expect it will be the same as conventional loans – plan on closing by mid-September or risk not being able to close.

I'll post more information as more banks and lenders issue their deadline. Meanwhile, if you are considering refinancing or buying a home and your loan amount fits into this "gap" between the existing limits, you may want to contact your local mortgage professional now if you want to avoid having a jumbo loan.

As always, I'm happy to help you if your home is located anywhere in Washington, where I am licensed.

UPDATE August 4, 2011: Another bank has issued their conforming high balance deadlines:

All loans using the ARRA loan limits must be locked on or before Thursday, September 15, 2011. These loans must be closed and funded no later than Friday, September 23, 2011.There are no further delivery requirements.

Having a Hard Time Finding the “Perfect” Home in Seattle? Consider an FHA 203k Rehab Loan!

Some of my Seattle area clients have been searching for the “just right” home for months.  With a good portion of the available inventory being bank owned, many of the homes have been left in less than desirable condition or perhaps are overdue for a little TLC. If you’ve found a home that needs some work that’s located in a neighborhood you’d like to call home, an FHA 203k rehab loan may be worth your consideration.

FHA 203k loans allow a borrower to finance almost anything to improve the home (exceptions are luxury items, such as swimming pools, hot tubs, fire pits, etc.). Improvements that are allowed are:

  • structural alterations and reconstruction
  • modernization and improvement to the home’s function
  • elimination of health or safety hazards
  • changes that improve appearance and eliminate obsolescence
  • reconditioning or replacing plumbing; repairing or installing a well and/or septic; repairing/replacing electrical issues
  • adding, repairing or replacing roofing, gutters and downspouts
  • adding or replacing floors and/or floor treatments
  • major landscape works and site improvements
  • enhancing accessibility for a disabled person
  • making energy conservation improvements
  • room additions

The cost of the improvements are added to the sales price of the home.  For example, if you find a fixer with a sales price of $250,000 and it needs $40,000 in repairs or improvements, you can finance up to 96.5% of $290,000 (FHA loans currently have a minimum down payment of 3.5%).  

Many home buyers might buy a “fixer” knowing they can do a lot of the work “down the road” or as they can afford it.  With an FHA 203k rehab loan, the work is done after closing and financed with the “purchase money” first mortgage.  This means you’ll have the benefit of current low FHA rates instead of financing improvements with a Home Depot or Lowes credit card, not to mention the income tax benefits.

I recommend starting with a prequalification to see how much mortgage payment you are comfortable with and that you qualify for.  If you’re buying a home anywhere in Washington, I can help you.  Once you know what you qualify for, you can start shopping for homes that you’d like to improve (it doesn’t need to be a foreclosure or a total fixer). By the way, if you need a recommendation to a real estate agent, please let me know.

Once you’ve found a home that you’re interested in, it’s not too early to meet with a HUD approved consultant for a feasibility study. In fact, you can do this before you’re in contract.  This step is very important.  The consultant will help you identify what items HUD will require to be repaired to meet lending standards and make recommendations for improvements and consider your “wish list” for items to be done to the home.  You also want to make sure not to “over improve” your home for the area as the finished product will need to appraise for the adjusted sales price (sales price plus improvements and cost of the 203k loan).  A qualified consultant can help guide you through this part of the process and I’m happy to recommend someone if you’re buying a home anywhere in Washington.

FHA 203k loans tend to take a little longer to process and close than a standard FHA transaction. The total loan amount (sales price plus improvements) is limited to FHA loan loans which is currently $567,500 (until October 1, 2011) in King, Pierce and Snohomish Counties. 

Questions? Please contact me – your next home with your new kitchen is waiting for you. Mortgage Master Service Corporation is a Direct Endorsed HUD approved lender.

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