A Quick Question: Should I Refi?

This comment was left on a post I did a while back about how you don't really skip two payments when you're refinancing since mortgage interest is accruing.  I thought this comment was worthy of a post of it's own.

Hi Rhonda!
I found your website on a Google search and I have a quick question for you. I need some advice. Here are the specifics.

Current MTG Loan balance is $161,927.28 with 28.5 years left at 5.5%
My TOTAL payment a month including taxes, etc. is $1278.

Proposed FHA Streamline Refi is for $167,779 for 25 years @ 5.0%
My TOTAL payment a month including taxes, etc. would be around $1290.

Out of pocket Expense $0.

Positives?
Negatives?

We plan on being there another 7-10 years.

If we do this, there is talkof the double Mtg skip, and a refund of MIP.

I know they aren't really skipping, nor the refund an actual refund, because the total loan amount is more than my current balance, kind of a wash. But there is still about a $1700 difference.

I could really use the $ to payoff a few things, even though I'm really rolling it into the new loan.

Is this really that bad of a deal?
Any advice or counsel is much appreciated!

Thanks!

RC

First of all, it's great RC is weighing out the long term value before proceeding with the refinance.  Often, home owners may refinance blinded by what seems to be an attractive rate or payment without considering if they'll break even.  Other factors besides the cost or savings is the effort it takes to accommodate a refinance.  Even an "easy" transaction is going to require some work on the home owners part with providing documentation, completing forms and signing final loan documents (an FHA streamline does have reduced documentation).

I'm always a bit concerned when a loan originator sells "skip two payments"…this shouldn't be a sales point by anyone who considers themselves a "mortgage professional".   You can check out my original post to see why.

There is no monthly out of pocket savings with this scenario.  In fact the payment would increase by $12 per month.  I'm assuming the savings of $1700 has to do with the illusion of skipping mortgage payments.

RC states there is no out of pocket expense but I'm unsure if this means it's a "zero cost loan" or if the closing costs are rolled into the new loan.

There is no refund of the upfront MIP.  A portion is credited towards the new loan with an FHA Streamline refinance.

The principal mortgage balance will be increasing by about $5,852 however the term is being reduced by 3.5 years.  With regards to the 25 year term, I'm not finding any lenders that we work with (and we are an approved FHA/HUD lender) who offers a rate improvement with a 25 year amortized amortization over the 30 year.

It sounds like you're focusing on the potential $1700 savings and if this is what's important to you, I probably would not increase my mortgage payment by $12 a month even though it would be reducing the term. 

So there are my pros and cons to consider with this proposed transaction based on the information that you've provided, RC.   Without having all of your actual details, you need to take my advice with a grain of salt.

PS: I rarely ever really get a "quick question" that has a "quick answer". LOL 😉

 

 

Breaking Up is Hard to Do…Especially When You Own a Home Together

I’ve written articles before about issues to consider if you’re going through a divorce and have a mortgage…what if you were never married?  Couples (or single people) often buy homes together…what if worse case scenario, it doesn’t work out and one party wants to keep the home?

A divorce decree allows you to refinance to cash out the other spouse and still have the mortgage treated as a “rate term” refinance.  There are significant differences between a cash-out and rate-term refinance.  A cash out refinance is limited to an 85% loan-to-value and the rate is higher (approx. 0.5% in fee at an 80% loan to value with credit scores of 740 and higher).  If there is a court order, it’s possible that FHA might allow a cash-out refi with a non-married co-owner.

There’s also the issue of excise tax.  An excise tax affidavit is filed whenever a deed is recorded (in the State of Washington).  Excise tax may not be due when the person being removed from vesting is pursuant to a divorce decree.  However, when there is no decree or court order involved and the person is being removed, excise tax may be due as they consider the transfer of that person’s interest to the other person “a sale“.  I’m told the county may charge excise tax on half of the underlying mortgage.  As of the date this post was published, King County charges 1.78% for excise tax.   Possible exceptions to this would be if the co-owners were registered as domestic partners, or the transfer of the property to one co-owner is by court order. 

Just like a divorce, simply deeding the property over to the party who’s remaining in the home does not remove the other person from responsibility or liability of the mortgage.  And it probably makes good sense to contact an attorney who specializes in divorce to assist with the separation of the real estate property.

EDITORS NOTE: This post was written in 2009 and may not be as accurate with regards to excise tax with laws regarding recognizing partners since the writing of this post.

Documentation for Self Employed or Commission Paid Borrowers

Sonia asks via commenting on a post at The Mortgage Porter:

“I’m a first time home buyer, but I am self employed I would like to be preapproved for a mortgage loan and want to know what paper work will be required by the bank…”

Self employed borrowers will most likely need to provide the following documentation:

  • Last two years complete (all schedules) tax returns for both business and personal including W2s or 1099s.
  • Year to day profit and loss statement.
  • Bank statements, asset accounts (all pages).  Be prepared to document you have enough funds to cover your down payment and closing costs at minimum.  You may have to show proof of having reserves (additional savings remaining after closing).

Self employed borrowers need to show at least two years of income for their business.  The borrowers often income is averaged over the past two years.  If the borrowers income shows a decline from the previous year, the lower income may be used and the self employed borrower should be prepared to explain why they are showing less income to the underwriter. 

These guidelines may also apply to:

  • People who are receive commission income that accounts for 25% or more of their annual income.
  • People who own 25% or more of the company they work for.
  • Independent contractors.

If you’re a commission paid sales person, you’ll need to provide your last two years tax returns as well and those un-reimbursed business expenses are factored against you. 

When a borrower has income that has the possibility of fluctuating, they need to be able to review a period of time (two years).   Underwriters are looking for trends with any borrower’s income. 

I recently met with a newly self-employed person who wanted to take advantage of the First Time Home Buyer Tax Credit.  She’s bought her business just shy of a year ago.  Even though it’s showing great profit right now; her first year tax returns report a loss (as many new businesses do).  She does not currently qualify for a mortgage.  After she has two years tax returns (track record) her income will still be averaged with the first year loss factored in. 

The days of “stated income” or “no income verified” are gone (so are many of the lenders who offered those products).  Be prepared to fully document your income and down payment.  You’re showing the lender you have the ability to pay the mortgage with your successful two year track record as a self employed person or commission paid sales person.

I’m happy to work with self-employed or commissioned paid borrowers. Click here if you would like a rate quote for a home located anywhere in Washington.

An Awkward Time of Year for Closing Refinances: 1st Half Taxes Due

On April 30th, first half of real estate taxes are due for properties located in Washington State.   For those homeowners who are refinancing with a closing in April to mid-May, this can cause an inconvenience.   Lenders, the title insurance company and the escrow company need evidence from the County that the taxes for the first half of the year have indeed been paid. 

Unless your reserve account is waived, taxes are collected on a monthly basis in your mortgage payment and then paid when they are due: first half is due by April 30th and the second half is due by October 31st.  

The County typically has a lag time before the processed payments appear once they receive the payment from the mortgage servicer.  King County’s website states:

“It may take up to two weeks for your property tax payment to be reflected in our records after receiving your payment”.

For refinances closing before it is reflected in County records that taxes have been paid; they have a few options:

  • Pay six months of taxes at closing towards your payoff.  The mortgage servicer will refund the balance (overage) a few weeks after closing with their existing reserve account balance.
  • Pay six months taxes at closing; the escrow company might hold funds for the 6 months taxes as an escrow hold-back and refund them to you once County records show the taxes are paid.
  • Delay the closing until the taxes show as being paid per County records (this could cause an extension fee).

Folks closing their refi’s in October to mid-November will be in the same boat with their property taxes. 

Making Home Affordable Refinance – Can I Help You? Maybe…Maybe Not.

UPDATE JUNE 19, 2010:  The Home Affordable Refinance Program has become much easier to do since writing this post with both Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac securitized mortgages.  This post is pretty outdated (the hazards of writing about mortgages on a blog!)  If you need help with refinancing your home in Washington, please contact me.

Here is an updated information on Fannie Mae's Home Affordable Refi.

NOTE:  This program is still "evolving". Wholesale lenders/banks and private mortgage insurance companies are still issuing and revising their guidelines.  I'll try to update this post with current information as I receive it.

Fannie Mae will be implementing the Making Home Affordable Refi starting April 4, 2009.  Some home owners will be free to use any mortgage professional (as long as they are Fannie Mae approved) and others will be forced to return to their mortgage servicer.

First of all, I am only licensed to provide residential mortgages for homes located in Washington State.

UPDATE: IF YOUR MORTGAGE IS OWNED BY FREDDIE MAC, I MAY BE ABLE TO HELP YOU.  YOU DO NOT HAVE TO GO TO YOUR MORTGAGE SERVICER (WHO YOU MAKE YOUR PAYMENTS TO).

Currently, for the Home Affordable Refinance, Freddie Mac is requiring that home owners return to their mortgage servicer.  To determine if your mortgage is owned by Freddie Mac, click here. If your mortgage is owned by Freddie Mac, I probably cannot help you with an Making Home Affordable refinance.   However if your current mortgage is owned by Freddie Mac and you have home equity (you're not upside down); I may be able to help you.   Fannie Mae has a larger market-share than Freddie Mac…odds are in your favor, but check Freddie Mac first.  UPDATE:  Since writing this post, one major bank has informed us they will allow us to originate Home Affordable/Freddie Mac mortgages as long as we broker the loan back to them

If your mortgage is not owned by Freddie Mac, the next step is to see if it's owned by Fannie Mae. You can determine that by clicking here.   Unlike Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae is allowing home owners to use eligible mortgage brokers, bankers and correspondent lenders of their choice.  If your mortgage is owned by Fannie Mae (and your home is in WA); I may be able to assist you with your Home Affordable refinance.

Here are some important pointers about Fannie Mae's Home Affordable refinance (homes at a higher loan to value):

  • Second mortgages must be subordinated.  They may not be included (paid off) with the home affordable refinance.
  • Borrowers on the existing mortgage must match the new mortgage.  Borrowers may be added but they may not be removed.   UPDATE:  Borrowers can be removed under certain circumstances.
  • If a borrower currently has lender paid mortgage insurance (a slightly higher rate that financed private mortgage insurance) they may have to return to their mortgage servicer (who they make their mortgage payments to) for a Home Affordable refinance.  

What if your existing mortgage is FHA or VA?  You may qualify for a FHA or VA Streamline refinance which may not require an appraisal or income verification (you will need a mid-credit score of 620 or higher).

Lenders are currently inundated with refinance and purchase business due to the current low mortgage rates.   I encourage you to apply early and be very patient.   Washington State home owners can apply using my secure on-line application under "Favorite Links".

The bottom line is, if your home is in Washington I can at the very least help point you in the right direction and at the most, I can help you with your new refinance.

The Wild Cards of Refinancing

Jokers In years past, refinancing was a fairly simple task.  Homeowners would contact me wanting to restructure their mortgage to either reduce their monthly payments or perhaps to take equity to improve their home or pay off debts.  Back then, a 680 credit score was considered decent (anything over 720 was great) and people had a good idea of what their homes would appraise for and if they didn’t, I could usually determine a value by obtaining sales comps from a title insurance company.  It’s just not so anymore.  Refinancing can be trickier because there are “wild cards” involved that may not be revealed until you are deeper into the transaction.

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New FHA Limits on Cash-Out Refi’s

If you're considering refinancing and you're interested in taking cash-out to pay off debts, make home improvements or to eliminate a second mortgage that you did not obtain when you purchased your home; you have more reason than ever to start now.

Effective on FHA case numbers issued on or after April 1, 2009; FHA will only insure cash-out refinances when the loan to value is 85% or lower than the appraised value.  Your appraised value is not based on what you feel your home is worth — it's based on what your neighbor's have sold their homes for in the past few months.

If you have owned your home for less than 12 months, FHA is limiting cash out refinances to which ever is lower: 85% of the appraised value or 85% of the original sales price. 

According to HUD's Mortgagee Letter 2009-08, this is currently a temporary requirement:

"Given the continued deterioration in the housing market, and FHA's need to limit its exposure to undue risk, this reduction to the maximum LTV for cash-out refinances is being instituted on a temporary basis while FHA further analyzes the housing and mortgage industry as well as its own portfolio to determine whether permanent measures should be taken."

Well, what are you waiting for?  You have two weeks as of today for FHA's expanded cash out guidelines of 95% loan-to-value with loan amounts up to $567,500 in King, Pierce and Snohomish counties.   If your home is located in the State of Washington, and you're interested in refinancing, you can apply on line (under Favorite Links).  By the way, I have been originating FHA mortgages for nine years and we have in-house FHA underwriters at Mortgage Master…as I mentioned, I can only help you if your home is in Washington.

Where Should Homeowners Go to Refi Now?

UPDATE:  The Home Affordable Program has changed quite a bit over this past year.  Please contact me if you're interested in reviewing your scenario on your home located in Washington State.

More details to President Obama's Making Home Affordable Refinance and Modification Options that was unveiled yesterday.  Fannie Mae issued an announcement that they will be able to purchase refinances under this plan on April 1, 2009.  This means that lenders will be able to start originating these loans now.   Homeowners with mortgages who are interested in refinancing or a loan modification fall into a couple different categories.

If you have equity in your home and you qualify for a refinance, you do not need this program.  The Making Home Affordable Refinance does not allow cash-out–this would be a standard refinance which is still available.

You may be eligible for a Making Home Affordable Refinance if:

  • You own and live in your home (which may be 1-4 units).
  • The amount you owe on your mortgage is close to the current value of your  home (80.01-105% loan to value).
  • You have stable income.
  • Your current mortgage is owned by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac. If your home is not owned by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac, you may qualify for a FHA refinance as long as your loan to value does not exceed 95%.
  • Your current mortgage balance(s) is below $567,500 (in King, Pierce and Snohomish Counties).  For other conventional loan limits, click here.
  • You are current on your mortgage payment (if you are not current, you're a candidate for the loan modification program**).

If you meet the above conditions for a refinance or Making Home Affordable Refinance, contact your local mortgage professional. Details about how the home affordable refinances will be priced have not yet been announced.  Currently Fannie and Freddie have price hits based on loan to value and credit scores.

If your home is located in Washington State, I'm happy to help you with any type of residential mortgage. You can begin the process by completing a loan application which I have on line under my photo (to the left) under favorite links.  Be prepared to provide the following:

  • Most recent paystub.
  • Your most recent W-2 and possibly your last complete tax return.
  • Details about your current mortgages including any second mortgage or HELOC.

Refinances are most likely taking longer than the last time you obtained a mortgage due to the volume of business during a time when every aspect of the mortgage and real estate industry has fewer people employed.  Please be patient.

With home values depreciating in most areas, I do not recommend delaying your refinance.  The higher your loan to value (mortgage balance divided by home value), the more challenging the transaction will be.

**If you own a home and are having a difficult time making your mortgage payment because you have less income or your payment has increased and if you do not qualify for a refinance; you're probably in the loan modification camp.  Start today with contacting who you make your mortgage payments to (the loan servicer).  You can also call HOPE NOW at 1-888-995-HOPE (4673).  You do not need to pay someone (a loan mod "specialist") to assist with modifying your mortgage.

Loan modifications are available through the Making Home Affordable Modification program if you are at risk of "imminent default" or currently delinquent on your mortgage payment.  Your servicer may or may not decide to modify your mortgage–there are no guarantees but you must take action now.   Click here for more information about the Making Home Affordable Modification.