What takes place between signing and closing?

What happens between signing documents and closing? Watch this video featuring The Talon Group’s Chief Title Officer, Tim Daniels as he explains what happens with your loan documents after you finish signing at the escrow company.

Issues with Changes to the Estimated Settlement Statement after Signing

A Seller from Battleground, Washington sent me this question regarding how their closing cost contribution was treated with the Escrow Officer:

I recently sold my home and…I was to pay up to 6% of buyers costs. I was presented with good faith estimate of costs two weeks prior to closing, everything looked fine. We signed our documents at closing and carefully reviewed and signed the HUD-1 [Settlement] Statement.  The deal was recorded the next day and we were wired the money as noted on our documents minus around 3025.00.  We called escrow officer and she said that there was a problem at closing and she added a FHA-MIP charge to the hud-1 statement because we agreed to pay up to 6% of buyers costs in our sale documents. She did not notify us or even attempt to notify that she added this change to the hud-1 document and closed anyway.  Is that a legimate thing that can happen at closing?  It seems very very wrong to me…

Let me begin by saying that it does feel wrong.  The Escrow Officer should have called you immediately to let you know of the change to your Estimated HUD-1 Settlement Statement. It’s very poor service from the escrow company at the very least. 

Unfortunately, the Estimated HUD-1 Settlement Statement is just that: an estimate.  And when purchase and sale agreements are written with the Seller to pay up to a certain amount instead of a specific dollar amount, then it is the responsiblity of the lender to make sure that as much of the closing cost credit is used per the buyer’s loan guidelines.  Obviously there was a lack of communication with your transaction between the mortgage and escrow company to have this last minute change to your HUD happen.

You may want to review your escrow instructions (you would have signed them at closing too) which probably have language stating that the escrow company has the right to modify the Estimated HUD-1 Settlement Statement at any time.

You did everything correctly as far as reviewing the Good Faith Estimate and seeing what costs were being paid.  When you agree to pay "up to" a certain percentage, the Seller needs to be prepared to have that entire amount used.  When I have a closing cost credit from a Seller, we use as much as possible to pay for allowable closing costs and possibly buy down the buyer’s interest rate. 

I suggest contacting the manager of the escrow company and the real estate agents to let them know about your displeasure with your closing.      

Don’t Throw Your Loan Officer Mama from the Train

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I had an amazing experience which I just have to share…the positive point is that  the buyer did wind up with her home but it was under the brunt of stress that was unnecessary.   You see, sometimes when things begin to go wrong in a transaction, fingers will waive and point vigorously undeservedly.   People will want to remain shiny, positive and virtuous to their referral provider and will therefor, throw someone "under a bus" or "into a train".  I was recently almost thrown and I spared myself fighting all the way.

We had loan documents to the escrow company just over a week prior to closing (still pretty darn good)…no HUD-1 from the escrow company until a day before the buyer was signing (after many request for an estimated HUD-1.  I want to review them to make sure my closing costs from the Good Faith Estimate are in line with the Estimated HUD-1 Settlement Statement).   

The client signs two days before closing and I assume all is well until I receive a panicked call from the home buyer on closing day stating that we are not closing.  She’s very upset because she has learned from the Listing Agent and the Escrow Company that her purchase is not funding because my company released it too late.  This is a total surprise to me since our office did fund on the transaction.

My first step, after calling my client to let her know that I’m "on it" and that this is news to me (because escrow NEVER called me) is to call escrow and find out "what’s up".  At this point, it’s 4ish in the afternoon and there are no more new recordings taking place at the county. 

The Escrow Officer is schmoozy and tells me that we (the mortgage company) released the recording a little late which made it difficult for the title company to get documents to the county.  I let the EO know that previous to lending, I was in the title industry where my career began with recording documents and ended with managing an escrow branch.  The EO had days (a week) to sign the client and provide documents to the title company for recording…yet she’s still trying to pin the blame on the mortgage company.  We, in fact, have emails to the escrow officer confirming she has our wire and she’s okay at proceed with recording. 

Although this EO returns our funding package two days before closing (thanks to how many days in advance we provided the loan package to her) yet waits until the day of closing to send the loan documents to the title company.   She tried to tell me that we released too late at 2pm when I know that the county courthouse will take recordings until 3:30.  I’ve done many "walk on’s" myself way back "in the day".  Regardless, she and/or the title company could have had the documents to the court house MUCH earlier.

I only learned about the recording mishap only because my client called me ready to rip my face off since she was told this was the fault of lender when it was anything but the case. 

The escrow officer and title company are lucky that I’m not naming them.  I’m not one to bash (although check back if this happens again)!   As someone who was in the title and escrow industry for so many years, there is no way that I would have unjustly thrown someone "under the train" and I find it extremely concerning that the only way we learned about recording/closing issues was from the buyer.  If the buyer had not called us late in the day, we would have had NO idea that the loan we funded on did not record.  Why didn’t the Escrow Officer contact us?  A short staff is no excuse for not contacting the mortgage company (when the EO did communicate with the buyer and agents).  In fact, there is no excuse.

How did this wind up?  The title and escrow company have both since admitted fault.  The title company is going to indemnify the transaction as if it had closed on the day it should have.  And the buyer did get her keys to her new home.

What happened to working together?  I don’t remember throwing Mortgage Professionals under the train or bus like I’ve witnessed recently–are EO’s so afraid of losing business they’ll make a sacrifice play to impress their agents?

NOTE: My preferred title and escrow company contacted me concerned this could appear as if it where one of their Escrow Officers that "threw me off the train".  Without naming names, this was a different company. 

 

Don’t Ask at the Signing Table “How’s My Rate?”

I just read a great post by S-Crow at Seattle Bubble about his frustrations over the rates he sees when he’s signing clients at his escrow company.   I relate since before April Fools 2000, I was in the title and escrow industry for 14 years and often times, at signing, borrowers ask something along the lines of “How is my rate?”

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More good news from Talon Title

Another memo showing how The Talon Group is stepping up to the plate during these historic times in our industry for their previous clients:

"Starting today through February 2008, The Talon Group is lowering its residential refinance escrow fee to $375 for returning borrowers who have previously closed with either The Talon Group or Escrow Partners Inc.  We are also offering a discounted escrow fee of $275 for refinances of stand-alone second mortgages.

The Talon Group is committed to easing the pain for our past borrowers needing to lower their payments or reorganize their finances.

In addition to lowering our refinance escrow fees, The Talon Group is also offering an additional 10% off the refinance title premium for returning clients or new borrowers who provide us with their previous title policy or commitment.

We are keenly aware of your efforts to help your past clients deal with these turbulent times. As a member of your team, we want nothing more than to help you succeed.

The Talon Group’s superior databases and technology allows for greater communication and efficiency throughout the entire escrow process.
All discounts apply to 1-4 family residential properties only. The escrow order must be opened with The Talon Group between 9/10/07 and 2/28/08 to qualify for above discount. "

I just love to share some good news.  Group hug?

Cash due at closing

EDITORS NOTE:  This post has been updated here.   With all the changes HUD created with the 2010 Good Faith Estimate, they are no longer a practical tool for mortgage originators and actually, no where on the GFE is there a place showing "funds for closing".   Please skip this post and read the one linked above.

Your closing date on your new home is a couple of days away, your feeling a little case of the jitters…the last thing you want to deal with is to be surprised with what funds are due at your signing appointment with the escrow company.   

Here's how you can clear up the funds to close issue:

  1. Your Mortgage Professional should provide you with a "fine tuned" Good Faith Estimate 5 or more business days before closing for review.   Check out the amount due for closing and if you are being credited for the earnest money deposit and any funds you have provided to the lender.   Also verify if any credits to you are reflected by the seller.   If you are unsure at all, ask–don't assume.   This is the best time to make any adjustments, if needed.
  2. Verify with your Mortgage Professional if the GFE is factoring in your earnest money deposit.
  3. Your Mortgage Professional should obtain an estimated HUD-1 Settlement Statement from the escrow company 2 days before closing to review it for any corrections or modifications.   
  4. You may want to request seeing a copy of your estimated HUD-1 Settlement Statement prior to your signing appointment.   Currently this is not standard practice.   
  5. Bring a copy of your Good Faith Estimate with you to your signing appointment.   The lender fees shown in Section 800 of the HUD should be close to those shown on your Good Faith Estimate.

What if there are errors?  Try not to panic. Depending on how much time there is prior to the scheduled funding, the lender may be able to redraft loan documents if needed.   80% of our loans our funded within our own credit line so unless it involves someone having to be re-approved for a higher loan amount, loan documents can be emailed fairly easily to the escrow company.   Often times, it could just be correcting a few documents and not the entire loan package.

The closing table can be an emotional time.   It's in your best interest to have as many of the details worked as far in advance as possible.   If you have questions or concerns, speak up.  This is not the time to be bashful.   This is your mortgage and one of the largest financial transactions you will make in your lifetime…be responsible and take action.

When will I know how much money I’ll need for closing?

This is a common question from home buyers.  The Good Faith Estimate, when done properly is a good indicator of what money is due at closing, however it typically just includes the fees associated with the mortgage.   If there are other fees included with your transaction, such as an inspection or condo fees, they may not be reflected on the GFE.   The escrow company prepares an Estimated HUD-1 Settlement Statement that you review at closing.   

The HUD-1 Settlement Statement is essentially a balance sheet the Escrow Company prepares between both buyer and seller.  They gather all the fees and credits between all parties (buyers, sellers, agents, mortgage, etc.) and creates the amount due from the buyer and amount to be credited towards the seller.

The lender fees on the Good Faith Estimate should ideally correlate with the Estimated HUD-1.   For example, the fees shown on the GFE on line 801 (Origination) should be the same as line 801 on your Estimated HUD-1.   If there is a significant difference from your last GFE to the HUD-1, you should contact your Loan Originator to discuss it.

When does the buyer receive this document containing so much information?  Typically what happens is the escrow company waits until they receive the loan documents and escrow instructions from the mortgage company.   Escrow Officers often times won’t even make an appointment for signing until they have this information (loan docs) from the lender (they’ve been burned too many times setting up tentative appointments).   Sometimes, they will make exceptions if they know and trust the mortgage company.   So unfortunately, it’s usually close to signing when this document is prepared.   In most cases, someone from the escrow company will call you to schedule your appointment and will casually add, "you will need to bring a cashiers check in the amount of $$$". 

Did you know you can request a copy of the Estimated HUD-1 Settlement Statement prior to your signing appointment?   This is not standard practice, although it is totally acceptable.   Your lender needs to be on the ball enough to have provided escrow enough time to do this for you.  And you need to request it from the escrow company. 

I like to review the estimated HUD-1 before my clients ever see it (unless I’m unaware an appointment has been made…which can happen when it’s an escrow company we don’t normally work with).   Let’s face it, there can be errors made on the Estimated HUD-1 Settlement Statement…that’s why it’s called an estimate! 

After closing, you will receive a Final HUD-1 Settlement Statement which has, much as sounds, the final figures relating to your transaction prorated down to the day of closing.   You will want to hang on to this document for when you file your income taxes the following year.

Loan Originator Leftovers

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A few weeks ago, one of the Real Estate Agents I work with contacted me to review an estimated HUD-1 Settlement Statement.  She was the listing agent and was concerned that her seller was being taken advantage of by the Loan Originator.   In the purchase and sale agreement, the seller had agreed to pay "up to $10,000 towards allowable closing costs".    The origination fee on the estimated HUD…2%!

It appears to me that the loan originator bumped up their origination fee at the last minute when the $10,000 credit surpassed the amount of legit closing costs.   The origination was not called a "discount" so I highly doubt the Loan Originator used the excess credit to do the right thing and buy down the buyer’s rate.   Especially when the listing agent requested a copy of the good faith estimate or other documentation to support the excessive closing costs.   When the Loan Originator left the closing table, they attempted to take all remaining left-overs and scraps…licking their chops.

This greedy act by unscrupulous loan originators happens more often than you would like to know.    It’s wrong on so many levels, I don’t know where to start!  It’s taking money away from the seller, buyer and not honoring the purchase and sale agreement.   What can an agent (listing or selling) do to prevent this from happening to their client?

Here’s just a few ideas:

  1. Get a copy of the buyers Good Faith Estimate (GFE) before the seller agrees to pay closing costs when an offer is being considered.
  2. If you’re the Listing Agent, have your Mortgage Professional review the buyer’s GFE to make sure the cost and rate are within reason.
  3. Don’t use "up to" for closing cost.  Have the closing cost be a set figure for the credit.   This leaves no question as to what was intended for the buyer.
  4. Review the estimated HUD-1 Settlement Statement prior to closing.
  5. Have the Buyer bring a copy of their Good Faith Estimate and Lock Agreement to their signing appointment.   If the rate and closing costs are the same, yet the origination is increased…you’ve got a greedy gobbler for a Loan Originator.
  6. If you find that your Loan Originator (LO) is indeed taking the extra left over closing cost credit, put your foot down.   Contact them ASAP or your Real Estate Agent and demand to see the GFE and to have the LO explain their increase in origination.

Everyone loses when a loan originator takes more than they should.   If your LO is caught with their hand too deep in the cookie jar, slap it hard!